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Re: 4 speed trans: Condition and determining gearsets?
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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10/24/12 02:59 PM
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Those are the stock steel forks, I would use them 
Would/should you file down the gouge? Is a thinner cross section there going to create some looseness somewhere?
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I did a older 2.66 box for a customer several years back, I sent his gears to Liberty to have them replace the engagemnet teeth ring,and they converted them to Pro Shift  I called them back and ask why did they do that instead of replacing the rings with stock ones, thier explanation was that stock ones aren't availble. I had told them that this box was a street box, not a race box  He siad put it together and drive it and then call them back, it would work fine  It DID  
The clutching teeth are part of the gear, correct? So does liberty have a way of putting new teeth on it or do they modify the old teeth?
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Re: 4 speed trans: Condition and determining gearsets?
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10/24/12 10:43 PM
10/24/12 10:43 PM
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Those are the stock steel forks, I would use them
Would/should you file down the gouge? Is a thinner cross section there going to create some looseness somewhere?
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I did a older 2.66 box for a customer several years back, I sent his gears to Liberty to have them replace the engagemnet teeth ring,and they converted them to Pro Shift I called them back and ask why did they do that instead of replacing the rings with stock ones, thier explanation was that stock ones aren't availble. I had told them that this box was a street box, not a race box He siad put it together and drive it and then call them back, it would work fine It DID
The clutching teeth are part of the gear, correct? So does liberty have a way of putting new teeth on it or do they modify the old teeth?
I would not touch the forks, it(the slider) will ride on the high parts  Liberty cuts the ring that the small steel teeth are on off and welds a new ring on the old gear with the bigger pro shifted lugs on them  I don't have any pictures of the pro shifted lugs but theyr'e no where near looking like the stock factory gears look Maybe someone else can type a link in on here showing the pro shifted lugs and the faceplated gears together 
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: 4 speed trans: Condition and determining gearsets?
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10/25/12 11:05 PM
10/25/12 11:05 PM
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I'm just a little too far away to drop by Pennsylvania to his shop.
Looks like he cuts/files the clutching teeth down to get the point/triangle back again. But tough to see in the picture on his website of reconditioned gears.
Yes you can re-dress the clutching teeth back to original shape if they are not too bad...
I've seen worse , I use a dremel with a small stone and put the points back and smooth down the chips , it they are real bad you can send just the gears to Passon , Brewer or Liberty ...
I'm with Jamie on the forks , the person that put the most miles on that trans did it with his hand resting on the shifter. One MIGHT be able to dress those flat and smooth again and not weaken them too much .
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Re: 4 speed trans: Condition and determining gearsets?
[Re: JamiePasson]
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10/29/12 12:15 AM
10/29/12 12:15 AM
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Actually, the grooves were for the parts guys pulling and dealers ordering parts. The 2.66 and 2.47 ratios were not built at the same time in the factory. The 2.66 and 2.47 ratios have the same tooth counts for second and third gear. But don't listen to me, I don't know what I am talking about. 
So are the 2nd and 3rd mainshaft gears interchangable between 2.66 and 2.47 trans'?
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Re: 4 speed trans: Condition and determining gearsets?
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#1324115
10/29/12 10:55 AM
10/29/12 10:55 AM
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Actually, the grooves were for the parts guys pulling and dealers ordering parts. The 2.66 and 2.47 ratios were not built at the same time in the factory. The 2.66 and 2.47 ratios have the same tooth counts for second and third gear. But don't listen to me, I don't know what I am talking about.
So are the 2nd and 3rd mainshaft gears interchangable between 2.66 and 2.47 trans'?
NO.
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