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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
[Re: Furious65]
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09/30/12 08:40 AM
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sorry to hear about your truck. I havent heard of any of these swaps, but you should do it.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
[Re: Furious65]
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09/30/12 10:02 AM
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Don't know what you'd might put the 4.7 in,but I think it's a greatly overlooked engine as far as swapping goes.It makes good power and is fuel efficient,one of Chrysler's best engines IMHO.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
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09/30/12 10:54 AM
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Don't know what you'd might put the 4.7 in,but I think it's a greatly overlooked engine as far as swapping goes.It makes good power and is fuel efficient,one of Chrysler's best engines IMHO.
Ditto the 4.7 is a good running engine. It's wroth a try.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
[Re: Furious65]
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09/30/12 01:47 PM
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I would guess the engine width would be the biggest challenge in the proposed swap. I think a 4.7 swap into an A body would make for a great driver.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
[Re: Furious65]
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09/30/12 11:53 PM
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Hard to find a good 4.7 around Detroit area. Something to do with timing chain tensioners failing and causing other damage, I think.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
[Re: Furious65]
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10/01/12 01:24 AM
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Why the flash for the ECU? If I use all the 4.7 controls and such I don't see why I would need to unless I start adding some performance mods. Am I missing something?
Are you also going to put in every scrap of wiring from the dakota? That 05 computer is expecting to communicate with the body computer, anti-theft system, gauge cluster, all the emissions equipment, etc. Take any of this stuff away and you will have problems, unless you get it flashed. 1996+ when OBD2 came around, swapping the electronics over became a nightmare. The wiring is a lot more complicated to dissect and the computer needs to be flashed to ignore all the stuff that will be missing in your new vehicle. The 95 and back stuff can be done much easier. I swapped in a 99 engine but used 95 electronics for just this reason.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
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10/01/12 01:40 AM
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Hard to find a good 4.7 around Detroit area. Something to do with timing chain tensioners failing and causing other damage, I think.
I had em comeinto the shop with holes in the VC and the timing chain sticking out.. and since the engine is out might as well service it
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
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10/01/12 03:53 AM
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Are you also going to put in every scrap of wiring from the dakota? That 05 computer is expecting to communicate with the body computer, anti-theft system, gauge cluster, all the emissions equipment, etc. Take any of this stuff away and you will have problems, unless you get it flashed. 1996+ when OBD2 came around, swapping the electronics over became a nightmare. The wiring is a lot more complicated to dissect and the computer needs to be flashed to ignore all the stuff that will be missing in your new vehicle. The 95 and back stuff can be done much easier. I swapped in a 99 engine but used 95 electronics for just this reason.
No, don't need to add all the extra stuff. I would love to ditch the whole emissions crap built in to the fuel tank, body, security, and whatever else isn't necessary. Who out there will flash the computer on these to eliminate the garbage?
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I had em comeinto the shop with holes in the VC and the timing chain sticking out.. and since the engine is out might as well service it
Good to know! 
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
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10/01/12 05:41 AM
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If you don't mind me asking why don't you fix the truck? The damage doesn't look too horrible. If you really like the truck fix it and pocket some cash.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
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10/01/12 01:05 PM
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Pale Roader, have you seen a DOHC Mod motor out of the car? It's wider than it is long.
The 4.7 is a small, lightweight engine and would indeed make a fine A-body motor, or probably fit pretty well in a '30s or '40s Plymouth or Dodge. I'd say you either need to start with the entire stock wiring system and fuel tank, or else plan a different transmission and Megasquirt. That's just a guess.
Stock cams are assembled out of pieces and supply oil to the rockers. I don't know about upgrades.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
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10/01/12 01:36 PM
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If you don't mind me asking why don't you fix the truck? The damage doesn't look too horrible. If you really like the truck fix it and pocket some cash.
The entire cab would need to be replaced. It crushed the dash down into the console and you can see the sheet metal buckled inside right above and behind the rear door. I would bet money it is more work than it is worth to fix.
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
[Re: dogdays]
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10/01/12 01:48 PM
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2007 up engines are much better and make a ton more power.Little speed equipment other than turbo stuff and headers.Engine is a SOHC.Engines are very sensitve to the condition of the oil.Dirty oil = bad chains and pvc problems.
Not a bad deal for a driver but engine is very wide.Worst issue is probably fuel mileage but in an a body it should be quite good.
Fast might have a solution for the computer stuff.
Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike
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Re: 4.7l into classic Mopar?
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10/01/12 03:11 PM
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No, don't need to add all the extra stuff. I would love to ditch the whole emissions crap built in to the fuel tank, body, security, and whatever else isn't necessary. Who out there will flash the computer on these to eliminate the garbage?
Try hemifevertuning.com I think he's basically the only one out there who specializes in the OBD2 Dodges. Perhaps he can answer some questions for your. All I know is I had a complete 99 obd2 harness/computer from a dakota and I managed to dissect out just the computer and engine wiring harness part. However since I was just keeping the engine stock, it was cheaper for me to just get a 95 computer+harness from the junkyard than to have my 99 computer flashed.
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