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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: dvw]
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09/27/12 12:47 AM
09/27/12 12:47 AM
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Well... couldn't be happier with my results from the first time out with the car. Had a few issues, but nothing major. I have the boost controller wiring screwed up, so I couldn't get it to initialize into the launch mode. Hence only running it at 8psi all night. Also, had a bad connection at the trans brake button that wasted a few passes. Once I got that fixed, I just kept adding RPM to the starting line, and it kept going quicker and quicker every pass. It's pulling 1 degree of timing for every pound of boost, and it's only got 30 degree's in it to start. So basically a real conservative 8psi / 22 degree, tune up. The car is SOOOOOOO easy to drive. As mentioned, it's in first gear FOREVER. Shifts at 5500 rpm, crosses the stripe at like 5200. As smooth of a 10 second pass as you could ever dream of. I was really hoping it would dip into the 10's, but I never thought it would do it at such low boost. Can't wait to see what it'll do turned up, and with even more RPM/Boost/Timing on the launch.  I'll get some video posted up for you guys tomorrow.
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: RobX4406]
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09/27/12 09:26 AM
09/27/12 09:26 AM
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That's so cool... still looks better than most GM 4 doors! LOL But I like the looks of a 70 Coronet.
It's not real quick in the first 1/8. I'm thinking it's lagging ~.2+ there.
I was close on the MPH, didn't think it would go that well et wise.
Great going for the first time out, sorting out bugs and all.
I'm sure the 2.76 gear is the problem in the first
half of the track ... the 3.23 or a bit steeper would
help get it rolling... but that 2.76 sure is loaded
to give the turbo some heat... you should have heard
the 3.23 gear that he bought used.... that thing was
SCARY BAD... when he gave me a ride I was really
wondering if we would make it back to my house
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: dizuster]
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09/27/12 09:42 AM
09/27/12 09:42 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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Mr. Yuck. Do you want mustard or catsup with that crow?
Still at Milan. 5th pass, Zero boost launch, 11.30 @ 122 so far on only 8psi. Time to turn up the launch and the boost.
More later.
good running! I'm glad I was wrong. Don't blow it up.
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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09/27/12 10:00 AM
09/27/12 10:00 AM
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This thing had been dynoed and made like 470 at the rear tires, so doing the math not like is real accurate is making around 600+.
470 at the rear wheels is not 600+ HP otherwise I'd be over 600. I just don't see it in that build sorry. It's a very cool car and I hope it runs great. I just don't see 11's. Boost is boost S/C or turbo'd. The gear is going to hurt a bunch. and again I'm not sure how the converter is going to act w/ the boost and the lazy gear. It's like dropping the hammer at 5k in a pedal car w/ a highway gear, the rpms are going to sink way down, when that happens the boost will drop. I'd think it would run a ton better w/ a 3800 stall and 3.55's. I have a buddy that runs 8's at 160+ in a turbo SB. He runs a 4000 stall and 3.73 gears...and that thing has a 700+ lift cam.
But hey prove me and a few others wrong and go put up the numbers.
I also have a friend small c.i. chevy twin turbo small block, small cam .3.00 gears super tight converter and last time to the track it ran 8.67 letting off around the 1000 ft mark. It used to have a stock short block cast crank rods with forged pistons and at low boost it went 10.20's.
Last edited by dragram440; 09/27/12 10:06 AM.
67' charger 499 RB
10.57 at 127
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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09/27/12 10:06 AM
09/27/12 10:06 AM
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Mr. Yuck. Do you want mustard or catsup with that crow?
Still at Milan. 5th pass, Zero boost launch, 11.30 @ 122 so far on only 8psi. Time to turn up the launch and the boost.
More later.
good running! I'm glad I was wrong. Don't blow it up.
Yuck... isnt your car pressurized(boost)
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/27/12 10:18 AM
09/27/12 10:18 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Mr. Yuck. Do you want mustard or catsup with that crow?
Still at Milan. 5th pass, Zero boost launch, 11.30 @ 122 so far on only 8psi. Time to turn up the launch and the boost.
More later.
good running! I'm glad I was wrong. Don't blow it up.
Yuck... isnt your car pressurized(boost)
old one was, this one is just a 11:1 6-pack 440. Next one is going to be a 500ci wedge w/ 8-10lbs of boost.  Boost is the way to go for sure. Especailly if you drive the car and from the track like me. I'm just not sure if I want to go turbo or centrif supercharger.
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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09/27/12 10:24 AM
09/27/12 10:24 AM
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wow, I know turbos work, but 10 s with that gear  
-65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: Twostick]
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09/27/12 01:58 PM
09/27/12 01:58 PM
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Lots of mph with gears like that.
67' charger 499 RB
10.57 at 127
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: dragram440]
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09/27/12 02:19 PM
09/27/12 02:19 PM
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Planning on bringing it out again anytime soon? I'd love to check it out, and perhaps pick your brain a little
Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death...
71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts
66 Belv. II - just a streetcar
88 Mustang - turbo LS beater
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. What will it run?!?
[Re: OUTLAWD]
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09/27/12 02:30 PM
09/27/12 02:30 PM
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dizuster
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I don't think the converter is all that far off with the gear. Maybe a few hundred, but certainly not 1000. You have to remember that if it only stalled 3500 or so under boost, that would have to be down around 2000rpm without boost. It would never spool the turbo at the line. With the low gear needs it to flash up to near the peak torque to use it up to make the car move. I'm not so sure the 2.76 gear is killing it all that much. It's not spinning the tires yet, so it'll take more torque (ie. boost). And if it spins with more boost, then the 3.23 gear was only gonna make it spin anyway. Plus it doesn't really want to pull much more then 5500 anyway. Already crossing the stripe at 5200~5300. A little more HP/MPH and it'll be right where it wants to be. BTW... there is no way that it's going in the 9's at 123mph. Maybe 10.80's if it continues to hook as I turn up the RPM/Boost on the launch. It will definately go in the low 10's with the boost turned up some more though. No doubt about that. I am actually moving to my new house in a week and a half, so I was lucky my wife was nice enough to let me run it yesterday... lol Maybe after the move towards the end of October I'll get it out again. Feel free to PM me with any questions. Amazing what a little boost will do isn't it?
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Re: Sleeper going to T&T tomorrow. (WITH RESULTS!)
[Re: dustergirl340]
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09/27/12 03:06 PM
09/27/12 03:06 PM
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That thing has DRAG WEEK written all over it.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
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