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Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 67autocross] #1271169 02/24/13 09:41 AM 02/24/13 09:41 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan I Live Here
gdonovan I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: Quote: Looks like a weak a$& mustang launching soft Yea those weak ass Boss 302's run 11's stock with a set of slicks Call me a doubting Thomas, I didn't see one time on the boards watching that video and the launches seem to be selectively edited out. Anything close to a launch looked more like a roll to me for what its worth.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Old School] #1271170 02/24/13 03:00 PM 02/24/13 03:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,573 ...gently down the stream LAR_414 master
LAR_414 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,573 ...gently down the stream	A lenco isn't a stick shift trans in my book. It's a planetary trans and you have cut the car completely apart. Hope you were joking. I want, what hasn't been available....a fully syncronized trans that can be power shifted up high and handle a ton of power....5 spd to boot. That's what they kinda claim. I want to know if they are powershifting it up high...that's a lot to ask of syncronizers! So far, Jamie is doing it with his 5sp in testing that he is doing....not the customer. If this trans can't be power shifted up high, I don't want it! I beat my car hard....that's whats fun! I don't just go from my garage to a cruise and back to my garage!

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: LAR_414] #1271171 02/24/13 10:49 PM 02/24/13 10:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,169 Virginia Beach, VA O Old School super stock
Old School super stock O Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,169 Virginia Beach, VA	{quote}I beat my car hard....that's whats fun! I don't just go from my garage to a cruise and back to my garage! 68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp 70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME) 70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 67autocross] #1271172 02/27/13 10:17 PM 02/27/13 10:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 65 Solon, Oh Convertible Bee member
Convertible Bee member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 65 Solon, Oh	Quote: Quote: Quote: The price is fair, now I hope it fits an automatic floor A body. Not that I care about cutting a car but it would be nice to keep the floor space. If you had a 727 in it the ss700 will should fit, I have a 904 on the shelf, will look to see if the 727 is much bigger... will try to set the ss700 next to the 904 this weekend an get a picture of them together... I'm pulling the engine next week to freshen it up for this spring, seals, oil leaks, and have the p/s box rebuilt... For the price, Dayclona has it listed about what I paid $3500. trans shifter, driveshaft, shifter, ball, hardware... Would that be nice if it did fit the auto tunnel! Thanks for checking. Here are some pictures of a 727, ss700, and 904 together for size comparison... tails are lifted so all are about level... the 727 is wider, till where the ss700 shifter is... the 904 is about the same size across as the ss700, till shifter again... across for height in the tunnel ss700 appears to be a little lower than both until the shifter again... if you need better dimensions, let me know what you need, I'll try to get them for you... My opinion, the ss700 is about the same size as the 904, tail is a bit shorter so it needs the driveshaft that comes in the kit... measured the way instructed in the install directions, mine measures 58 5/8"... that's cl of rear yoke to the back of the trans casting... just ordered on Monday so we'll see how long the unit they ship is... 7606119-ss700_vs_727_vs_9042.jpg (250 downloads) Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/27/13 10:30 PM.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Convertible Bee] #1271173 02/27/13 10:35 PM 02/27/13 10:35 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 65 Solon, Oh Convertible Bee member
Convertible Bee member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 65 Solon, Oh	ok here's what i did to the crossmember to get the speedo cable to fit until Keisler has a chance to take care of the interference, as I stated before, shouldn't take much and this trans would be a couple hour to install... will clean sand and repaint when the engine is out... 7606159-speedo_cable_clearance.jpg (253 downloads)

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Convertible Bee] #1271174 02/27/13 10:42 PM 02/27/13 10:42 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA R relax383 member
relax383 member R Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA	I'm glad you managed to fix your problems fairly easy. Is there any room in there for a 90 degree speedo adapter. I use one on my A body and was just curious.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Convertible Bee] #1271175 02/27/13 11:06 PM 02/27/13 11:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA R relax383 member
relax383 member R Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA	something like this maybe or is it too tight with the angle of the housing? 7606220-sw_407010_f_lg.gif (170 downloads)

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: relax383] #1271176 02/27/13 11:44 PM 02/27/13 11:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 65 Solon, Oh Convertible Bee member
Convertible Bee member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 65 Solon, Oh	No room for the adapter, i looked into that route...just to tight, and the location...

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Convertible Bee] #1271177 02/28/13 12:05 AM 02/28/13 12:05 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,999 Salem Grizzly Moparts Proctologist
Grizzly Moparts Proctologist Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,999 Salem	Quote: if you need better dimensions, let me know what you need, I'll try to get them for you... My opinion, the ss700 is about the same size as the 904, tail is a bit shorter so it needs the driveshaft that comes in the kit... Actually, I'm curious what the weight comparison would be to that 904............ Mo' Farts Moderated by "tbagger".

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Convertible Bee] #1271178 03/03/13 08:48 PM 03/03/13 08:48 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA R relax383 member
relax383 member R Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA	any more news? had a chance to drive it yet?

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Convertible Bee] #1271179 03/08/13 05:41 PM 03/08/13 05:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA R relax383 member
relax383 member R Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA	I wonder does the RS500/600 have the same speedo location problem the SS does? The tail shaft housings look similar. I have yet to find a mopar owner who has an RS series trans.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: relax383] #1271180 03/25/13 12:38 PM 03/25/13 12:38 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Still waiting.....

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar] #1271181 04/07/13 03:51 AM 04/07/13 03:51 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Convertible Bee, Have you driven the car with the new transmission? I think Keisler may have modified the tailshaft casting? When I called about my transmission they mentioned something about waiting for a new tailshaft casting? I'm calling the Monday to get an update and find out what is going on. I did remove the old 833 4-speed today, and took some measurements of the stock position of the trans output to tunnel, and oil pan to drag link, so I'm ready to install the new trans if it ever gets delivered.....

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar] #1271182 04/19/13 04:06 AM 04/19/13 04:06 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Got the transmission today! I think it is #207? Has a "FORD" sticker on the trans? Looks like yours, so I may need to do some hacking to get it in too. I did take photos of where the stock trans output was in relation to the trans tunnel.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar] #1271183 04/19/13 10:53 PM 04/19/13 10:53 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA R relax383 member
relax383 member R Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA	Any pictures of your trans? I am curious if they have made the revisions to the tailshaft housing. Is the Speedo housing behind the transmission mount?

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Convertible Bee] #1271184 04/20/13 03:02 AM 04/20/13 03:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 797 WA P pro451bee super stock
pro451bee super stock P Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 797 WA	Ok ,Im sold.I am going to order a Passon 4spd OD next week!

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: relax383] #1271185 04/21/13 02:37 AM 04/21/13 02:37 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Quote: Any pictures of your trans? I am curious if they have made the revisions to the tailshaft housing. Is the Speedo housing behind the transmission mount? I'll post photos later, but the transmission is the same as convertable bee's. I ran into all the same fitment issues. The kit wants the tailshaft hanging down 5" from the top of the tunnel to the center of the output shaft. This has the headers hitting the steering linkage. The stock trans output shaft is about 3-1/2" to the top of the tunnel. So, it looks like raising the rear of the trans 1-1/2" moves the oilpan/headers up about 1/2" for clearance. To move the trans up that far requires trimming the sides of the tailshaft, and making clearance for the speedometer cable, and then the trans is still touching the sided of the trans/T-bar crossmember. I'm going to look at convertible bees photos again, but on my car, I may just notch the T-bar crossmember for mors side clearance

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar] #1271186 04/21/13 03:07 AM 04/21/13 03:07 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Forgot to add that the bellhousing alignment was off 0.035" top to bottom (needs to be moved up), and also off about 0.005" side to side. I just ordered some offset dowl pins from Robb Mc Performance. I also measured for the driveshaft, so I can get that ordered from Keisler.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar] #1271187 04/21/13 03:31 AM 04/21/13 03:31 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	Considering how much I've read on how their previous transmissions require modifications when they claim they don't... I'm no surprised at all this one is the same way. 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar] #1271188 04/21/13 10:29 PM 04/21/13 10:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA R relax383 member
relax383 member R Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 136 Oceanside CA	I am not really surprised that the cases haven't had simple revision to make installations easier. This type of oversight can put off potential buyers.

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