WOW! I am saddened to see adults act like this! (Dayclona vs J.Passon) It just proves to me that humans are ill-designed...not me of course. Hah! I am neutral, being that I am not in the market for a 5-speed tranny, but If I was, I would chose Passon based on his demeanor, and the facts presented so far! The best people and products will always rise to the top! ...even if his or her cheerleaders don't have shorter skirts that their competitors!

Well was bored, did some fitting, had an oh $#!@ moment, my fault...

Trans is up where I think it should be, had to trim the shifter hole a bit more...

What do you guys think, close enough?

Made a template to use for clearance, all trimmed well on the ss700, no structural compromises, though here's my oh crap, didn't look at where the o ring for the speedo was and ground where it seals off... my fault!! I'll get around that, no big...

So as I see it, the speedo cable input needs to be on a steeper angle to clear,(it would be an easy fix for keisler when manufacturing), the edges trimmed for the b body cross member,(easy fix) and the Keisler cross member needs to be corrected for the height change (also an easy fix for Keisler),last thing, shifter perch, at least for automatic to manual conversion, needs to be 180 degrees, this would put the adapter in the center of the console boot when in neutral,(easy fix)...

I've done your R&D and posted it, correct this transmission's problems before you send any others ss700's that don't fit... this could be a descent transmission and an easy install...

These are my opinions and observations on this install your experience may vary. Tim


Last thought on this today...
If you cant't fix it with a hammer, the problems electrical...

Areas affected by trimming...

nicely done Convertible Bee I would also suggest sending Legend these pics and info so they might use it in the future.

That was not really that bad to get it in there, let us know how it shifts when you start driving it.

Thanks for all the input. I should have my SS700 next month. Going into the '69 Coronet 4-speed car, and I am using the stock clutch linkage / mechanical throw-out bearing, so it may use a different retainer? I ordered pretty much the entire kit except clutch linkage, so it will be coming with Keislers bellhousing, inspection cover, console shifter, clutch, pressure plate, etc.
I'll post some pictures when it shows up.

So a SS700 fits without having to change to a manual tunnel?
That is kind of nice not having to replace the tunnel on a car with a painted floor.
Too bad Keisler couldn't do a few minutes of machining to make things easier for you.

The animosity and "shots across the bow" aside, this is a great thread. Thanks Tim for taking us all along for the ride.
Craig

I sent Legend a copy of this thread via facebook. I got a response from the front desk saying they were passsing it on to the engineers and desginers hopefully they read it and can fix the little things because really its all just little stuff. But the devil is in the details.

Is the correct bellhousing supposed to be included in the price or is that extra?

Bellhousing is extra $$$. They told me the trans would bolt upto a stock bellhousing without modification. I figured I would just the entire 833 with stock bellhousing in another project, and got the aluminum housing for the SS700 trans swap.

Spoke with Shafi and David from Keisler today. The outcome of the conversation was satisfactory to me. They are going to work through and assist me with the issues with my trans swap.

The highlights are:
1) The issue with the bolt pattern and pilot for the stock Mopar bellhousing is resolved. If you order a trans to fit a Mopar bell it will have the correct bolt pattern and pilot size for a stock Mopar bell. If you order a Keisler bellhousing the trans will fit that bell; remember the Keisler bellhousing has the tremec bolt pattern and pilot.

2) The stock to get the tail higher in the tunnel, will be taken care of too. This was minor but did prevent the trans from lifting completely to the position that I needed. So no problem there now.

3) The speedometer cable location -- we discussed on how the stock B-body cross member frame interfered. They are going to see if the cable mount location can be clocked to allow more clearance to the frame. From my measurements I feel that this is very possible as long that there is wall stock in the casting. About 5 degrees should do it. *Side note -- On their XP Charger the engine appears to sit flat but slightly lower. This is why I believe the cable was placed where it was. I would have missed that too.

In reality I am amazed it fit at well as it did with this trans being able to fit as many cars as it does. A few tweaks in the beginning are to be expected.

4) The shifter location, Shafi assured me would be correct when I start the final assembly. Because of his willingness to help out with the other concerns, I believe it will.

*Final Thought - With these concerns corrected I feel this will be a very affordable overdrive transmission for our B-bodies.

Tim

I am glad you had that chat with the guys at Keisler hopefully they get all these issues worked out. As you say they do seem minor. Hopefully the guys at Legend have seen the thread. Its a good thing you had the background for this R&D i think you saved quite a few of us some big headaches.

Glad it's going good.

Awaiting a test drive!

ConveribleBee -
Would you be willing to give us a breakdown of what this kit costs (saw the $300 for the BH)?

I suspect a bunch of us are curious yet don't want to bombard Keisler for a formal quote.