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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: torqueaddict]
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07/20/12 11:15 AM
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Guys yesterday I saw one of the coolest cars I ever saw! I saw a build on youtube that was completely custom, the coolest part was the power plant. It was a Viper motor that was twin turbo in a b body. I was really impressed till I looked up the specs on the older Viper motors and I came to an odd conclusion, puttin a Viper motor in a classic is kind of a waste. You can get the same if not more from a wedge stroker for far cheaper and easier to maintain. Am I out of line or is this how real mopar guys have always analyzed a v10 upgrade? It just seems very novelty not very practical at all.
The same reason people build Hemi's and not wedges the name and wow factor. O course Iam not talking about guys who race their cars but more like the average muscle car owner price not being a factor would rather have a V10 or Hemi under the hood then a small block or Big block wedge IMO
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: 540challenger]
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07/20/12 11:46 AM
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I agreed and then I started thinking...As far as easy to maintain, why isn't a hydraulic roller cam Viper engine easy to maintain? I mean, really, you have to buy 10 spark plugs instead of eight, and the oil change may require a few more quarts, but what else do you have to do to it?
Also, the Viper engine is all aluminum, and when you factor that into the build your cheap RB stroker gets expensive pretty fast.
As for power, TWIN TURBOS! how much do you want?
So the only real disadvantage I can see is space and possibly weight distribution.
Now ask me what I think about the truck V10 swaps.....
R.
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: tubtar]
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07/20/12 12:10 PM
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A twin tubo viper should make well over 1000 hp, I've seen one running in the 8s, I believe with a stock/factory block
Do that with a factory RB block!
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: joshking440]
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07/20/12 12:11 PM
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They will make 1500hp with a couple of small turbos in a hurry, in stick form. That would be why I would do it.
 With some boost, these engines can be absolute monsters.
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: bwdst6]
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07/20/12 12:53 PM
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You can put twin turbo’s on a RB engine too! But I don’t see a V10 producing over 1000 hp without a power adder. Now a large displacement RB with really good aftermarket heads…! 
thats where the viperengine shines,it already has a longblock from the factory capable of realy stupid power by just adding some boost and probably a few odds and ends,compared to building a RB engine where the stockblock wont last for long at 3/4 of the power the viperengine will handle for a long time. building a complete bigblock out of good new parts will cost even more especialy if you want to build with a aluminum block..
ontop of that the coolfactor of a boosted viperswap is huge 
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: Dago Red]
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07/20/12 04:12 PM
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He's got everybody here talking about his car, doesn't he?? 
I wish this were my car we were talking about!! It had me wanting to buy a b body. (I actually looked and went to see one).
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: torqueaddict]
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07/20/12 04:14 PM
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I agree with what you guys are saying. All I'm saying is if a viper motor comes with 400-500 hp and torque stock for 10k( about the average cost for a used viper motor). A RB that cost 10k to build would have more power I would imagine. If you had a stroker with 600-700 hp what would happen if you put twin turbo on that just imagine!!!!
I believe they are 600/600 on a viper engine plus
your not talking apples to apples... viper engine
is alum vs iron BB.. so if you start figuring equal
parts the price is close but the BB sure wont have
the WOW
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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07/20/12 04:27 PM
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A big block built to handle that amount of power with twin turbos would cost more then 10 grand.
LBSR
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: Bill_LBSR]
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07/20/12 04:31 PM
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And turboed vipers make an impressive amount of power. There's a drag radial viper from Delaware that runs in the 7s and it is driven on the street. Still independant rear suspension too.
LBSR
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Re: Why do people put v10 motors in these cars?
[Re: Bill_LBSR]
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07/20/12 04:50 PM
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If I wanted Viper power I would take the Viper with it.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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