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Re: Stroker or forced induction?
[Re: JackGTX440]
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07/20/12 11:31 PM
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build a reliable short block and just screw it
What blower is that? What did you do for an intake manifold? A twin screw would be another awesome choice, but would be more expensive that the turbo...
its a lysholm 3.3 twinscrew:) the intakemanifold is a custom billet piece done by a local machineshop,not cheap at all and a cheaper solution would have been to make a adaptorplate to put on a low singleplane intakemanifold but i realy wanted it as low as it can possibly be to hide it under a low scoop. also using a low singleplane with a adaptorplate could create some trouble since the outlet of the blower is in the bottom of the front 1/3 of the case but im sure it could be solved. also indys modman intake could probably be used with a good adaptorplate
i realy hope its a good choice lots of time spent on this build, but the screw has some very good advantages compared to roots blowers and turbos have always seemed alitle harder to get to run just right
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Re: Stroker or forced induction?
[Re: racer_amx]
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07/21/12 12:03 PM
07/21/12 12:03 PM
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JackGTX440
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Agreed. He could have the performance of a ten second truck with the drivability of a 13 second truck.
Jack Irons Jr.
'67 GTX, turbo 6.1 HEMI
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Re: Stroker or forced induction?
[Re: mshred]
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07/22/12 12:24 AM
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Turbo(s) without a doubt. And I have a stroker.
This!
This is what I should have done with my 360 last year when I bent a valve...it already had the compression for it, coulda strapped on a turbo, made gobs of power with a safe tune, and ran a streetable gear to cruise the thing anywhere.
Sure those stock cast pistons aren't the best, but they will work for now at lower boost levels- when you want more, yank it and do the bottom end, but even at lower boost levels you should be fine and still have a TON of fun
thats my
Since you are already fuel injected I will more than agree with this. If you can do the fab work and are willing to run cheap chinese parts you can have a nice single setup dirt cheap. I've got $1300 in hard parts counting my fuel system (carb). I have gotten very lucky so far with a stock all cast bottom end. I've been as high as 18lbs on pump gas with 28 degrees of timing when my wastegate line blew off with no parts loss. I can't stress enough to match your turbine a/r, converter, and rear gear all up together or it will be a lazy turd (like mine) until it builds boost. Untuned and not reaching full throttle my car ran 87 mph in the 1/8th. Last week with alittle tuning I went 92 mph but my 60ft still sucks because the converter is wayyy too tight.
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Re: Stroker or forced induction?
[Re: SLOW67]
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07/22/12 09:55 AM
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He is talking about a Dakota with the stock JTEC PCM...So adding any type of boost is going to be tricky using a SCT with the PRP package so he can do it himself.
Even the SCT tuners whom do email tunes have a problem with tunng these things for boost, but Chris at Performance Injection Equipment is getting it down...I'm getting my NA 408 tunes from him. Sean Powell is another good one to get tunes from...Goes by "Hemifever".
If he has someone local to him with a dyno and can tune his Dodge PCM, he should go that direction. here in ALB, NM. no one can tune my truck with an SCT, which is the Dakota R/T owner's only option other than a standalone. He go cheap if he has the knowledge and use a Megasquirt. But the tune is going to be critical with a stock bottom end.
2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.
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Re: Stroker or forced induction?
[Re: Adobedude]
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07/22/12 02:03 PM
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I'm about a 1/2 mile from both an engine and chassis dyno. I have been looking at some of the bigger Holset turbos or some of the Precision rebuilt units and have the ability to do all the fab work. I have Megasquirt experience, but prefer not to go with a standalone right now unless it's absolutely necessary. I know others have been doing well with the SCT and forced induction. Also with the Pro package, they do an online training class so that should help with the learning curve. I really don't care about the stock engine and would build something better if it blows. This is mostly a summer play toy.
Matt 69 Dart Swinger 340 83 W350, Megasquirted with 46RH Old news: 72 Demon street/race mobile Latest: 70 Duster backhalf car and even more
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Re: Stroker or forced induction?
[Re: herkamer]
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07/22/12 03:44 PM
07/22/12 03:44 PM
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Adobedude
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Then you should be good to go on the tuning end.
I have a FAST XFI I plan to put on ths winter also have complete carb set up, I'm all about NA and it's not legal for the street...sooooo.
All I really need is WOT.
Last edited by Adobedude; 07/22/12 03:46 PM.
2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.
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