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heat riser passage block off methods #1264721
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Interested in what has worked for others.

Application is an iron 383 manifold

I've been contemplating using large quantities of JB weld.

I know they make a gasket that does it, but it'll take too long to get.

Share your story

Thanks

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: dave571] #1264722
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Kind of hate to admit it but, I used the ends off a string bean can the first time. Which was about 45 years ago.

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: dave571] #1264723
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wadded up ball of aluminum foil


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Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: RapidRobert] #1264724
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wadded up ball of aluminum foil




I have a buddy do this on his 400 just a couple weeks ago, he was tuning it as it had developed a miss... must have been the shreded alum foil that was being spit out the open header.

yes,he has the heads off now doing a VJ on them.

***best way on a BB is to get the felpro HP valley pan with the heat blocked off and use the 4 thin gaskets with it.***

on my SB I have used soup can lids to cut patches out. the MP-block offs are a tad to thick and mine intake bolts kept comeing loose.

I have some thin metal block offs on there now from a radio cover/shell and the 440 has the felpro HP valley pan.

results vary,good luck.


Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: dave571] #1264725
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In a pinch I made little covers from some brass shim stock and have used pieces from an old valley tray , put them in the little recess where the opening is and it worked fine . I don't think run of the mill JB weld will survive in that spot but I have never tried it. .

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1264726
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turn it off, turn it on.

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Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: lewtot184] #1264727
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Is that something you made, Lewis? If so, what do you have in mind for connecting to it?

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: Fury Fan] #1264728
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Mopar Performance had offered an intake manifold gasket with two thick (.040-.050) shims to block the heat crossover on small blocks.

I never used this kit due the the shims being so thick. What I do is find a large aerosol can and cut my own shims. The ones I have used where about .011 thick. I have done this MANY times and never had a problem.



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Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: Fury Fan] #1264729
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Is that something you made, Lewis? If so, what do you have in mind for connecting to it?


i made it. i don't connect anything to it. just manually open and close as needed.

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: lewtot184] #1264730
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turn it off, turn it on.




now thats thrifty...


Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: dave571] #1264731
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Balled up big wads of aluminum foil and stuffed them down in there. Crude and effective, kind of keeping with these old Mopars' spirit.

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: IronWolf] #1264732
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Thin aluminum plates epoxied to the heads is what I do if I don't Hard Bloc them shut

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: BulletBob] #1264733
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I usually use JB Weld to close them up. Been running a Performer that way for about 10 years now.

Mix up half a tube each, pour it in one side, tape off the opening, set the intake so that the taped off opening is setting on the workbench, let it harden. Use the remaining JB Weld on the other side once side one is done, remove tape, install.


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i jammed a ball of aluminum foil in it then topped it off with jb weld.

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: JAMESDART] #1264735
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Some good ideas. thanks guys!

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: IronWolf] #1264736
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Quote:

Balled up big wads of aluminum foil and stuffed them down in there. Crude and effective, kind of keeping with these old Mopars' spirit.




I remember someone on this board post about stuffing it with 100 dollor bills along with that alum foil,so it would pay hiim for the rebuilding of the heads.

ask my buddy that is waiting for his 4oo BB heads back from the machine shop after spitting the alum out the header collectors

results will vary.

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1264737
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Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1264738
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I remember someone on this board post about stuffing it with 100 dollor bills along with that alum foil,so it would pay hiim for the rebuilding of the heads.




I remember that one too, and I've quoted that in threads like this. The original guy that said it I believe goes by the name 'Paymelater' or something like that, which is funny too.

Re: heat riser passage block off methods [Re: dave571] #1264739
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Back in the day, we used to shove balls of aluminum foil into the head and then cover with a thin patch of sheet metal. Then we would wire the crossover valve in the manifold open or drill it out, tap the holes and put bolts in. Always worked fine. With todays gas, this is a must to do since the added heat evaporates the fuel.


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