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How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A #1258799 06/28/12 09:52 AM 06/28/12 09:52 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 68 NEW YORK M MAXEDWEDGE OP member
MAXEDWEDGE OP member M Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 68 NEW YORK	I switched from a jazz seat to a pro car seat .How do i secure the back of the seat to the roll bar . The jazz seat i just drilled a hole threw it and put a nut and bolt that the harness straps attached to . Thanks in advance

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: MAXEDWEDGE] #1258800 06/28/12 01:41 PM 06/28/12 01:41 PM
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Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	This is what I did. Made it adjustable to go with the seat rail adjusters. Seat is in the most rear position. 7268922-seatadjuster.jpg (158 downloads) Last edited by Crizila; 06/28/12 01:45 PM. Fastest 300

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: Crizila] #1258801 06/28/12 01:54 PM 06/28/12 01:54 PM
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MAXEDWEDGE OP member M Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 68 NEW YORK	thanks for the reply. i have a stock seat in it now and the back of the seat is not riged enought to put a brace like that

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: MAXEDWEDGE] #1258802 06/28/12 02:16 PM 06/28/12 02:16 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 505 Northampton Pa 65 NSS 500 mopar
65 NSS 500 mopar Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 505 Northampton Pa	What point is that required is it 11.99 or 10.99. Just curios, 1965 Coronet 500 340 40+ Passon 4sp 12.90 2.6 60' street tires

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: 65 NSS 500] #1258803 06/28/12 02:37 PM 06/28/12 02:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 528 Oak Grove, MN lowflyingdart mopar
lowflyingdart mopar Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 528 Oak Grove, MN	Quote: What point is that required is it 11.99 or 10.99. Just curios, 11.49 "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." Thomas A. Edison

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: lowflyingdart] #1258804 06/28/12 03:11 PM 06/28/12 03:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,932 Finalnd, Perkele J jyrki master
jyrki master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,932 Finalnd, Perkele	How do you secure a true factory seat, a bench or a bucket? Plynouth VIP '67 TT IC EFI

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: jyrki] #1258805 06/28/12 06:18 PM 06/28/12 06:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,682 Philadelphia R radar top fuel
radar top fuel R Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,682 Philadelphia	I never did one for tech inspection but I've welded up some broken seat backs on stock buckets. On my 72 a-body the plastic back unscrews to reveal the stamped frame with the covers hog ringed on. I don't see why you couldn't reinforce the seat frame and T off of that to a bracket that would poke thru out the back? It wouldn't have to add that much weight and the factory back would just have one new hole in it. Good luck

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: radar] #1258806 06/28/12 10:44 PM 06/28/12 10:44 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	Mines not factory Chrysler but looks like one. Honda frame with a tube welded into a stiffener across the back. Doug 7269516-backview.jpg (102 downloads)

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: dvw] #1258807 06/28/12 10:46 PM 06/28/12 10:46 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	Cage mount 7269523-racecar662.jpg (120 downloads)

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: dvw] #1258808 06/28/12 11:09 PM 06/28/12 11:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 287 Michigan S SC304 enthusiast
SC304 enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 287 Michigan	Man that ride looks familiar?

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: SC304] #1258809 06/29/12 05:50 AM 06/29/12 05:50 AM
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MAXEDWEDGE OP member M Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 68 NEW YORK	My cage looks like yours ,how are the stocker guys doing it with out destroying the seat

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: MAXEDWEDGE] #1258810 06/29/12 02:15 PM 06/29/12 02:15 PM
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6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,566 Motor City	Not stock seats but I went with Kirkeys in my Challenger. Just showing some ideas as towhat we did for mounts. 1st pic. 7270155-100_1558[640x480].jpg (89 downloads) 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: 6PKRTSE] #1258811 06/29/12 02:16 PM 06/29/12 02:16 PM
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6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,566 Motor City	Rear mount to cage. 7270157-100_1560.jpg (72 downloads) 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: 6PKRTSE] #1258812 06/29/12 02:18 PM 06/29/12 02:18 PM
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6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,566 Motor City	2ND pic was the driver side. This is the passenger side mount to the cage. 7270158-100_1557[640x480].jpg (66 downloads) 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: 6PKRTSE] #1258813 06/29/12 02:19 PM 06/29/12 02:19 PM
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6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,566 Motor City	All painted & ready to go. 7270161-ChallengerProgress035[640x480].jpg (68 downloads) 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: jyrki] #1258814 06/29/12 06:29 PM 06/29/12 06:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,062 Amherst,NY challengermike super stock
challengermike super stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,062 Amherst,NY	Quote: How do you secure a true factory seat, a bench or a bucket? A factory seat doesnt need to be hooked to the cage. Only aftermerket or a non factory seat.

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: challengermike] #1258815 06/29/12 07:40 PM 06/29/12 07:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,627 anywhere@ anytime A actionange top fuel
actionange top fuel A Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,627 anywhere@ anytime	Quote: Quote: How do you secure a true factory seat, a bench or a bucket? A factory seat doesnt need to be hooked to the cage. Only aftermerket or a non factory seat. Been running this set up in NSS as fast as low 10's and it passes tech everywhere I've been. 7270489-resizedfrontseatrollbar.jpg (59 downloads)

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: challengermike] #1258816 07/04/12 08:13 AM 07/04/12 08:13 AM
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MAXEDWEDGE OP member M Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 68 NEW YORK	thanks for the info i bought a pro car rally seat i guess i'll have to tear it apart and see what i can do

Re: How do you secure your factory seat to meet N.H.R.A [Re: actionange] #1258817 07/04/12 10:06 AM 07/04/12 10:06 AM
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dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	Quote: Been running this set up in NSS as fast as low 10's and it passes tech everywhere I've been. Ok here is my two cents... for what it's worth, I am a seating engineer so I feel like my opinion is probably worth something... No offense, but "passes" and "safe" are two different things. The main reason the rule is there is because of any impacts that could happen from the rear (or rear angle) the roll bar needs to support the seat. Even modern seats with high strength steel back frames, and high strength dual recliner mechanisms aren't very good at moderate speed rear impacts. Our old junk (or even the new race seats) certainly won't do it either. Remember the belts can take all of the load in a front crash. The seat has to take all of the load in any rear crash. Check out this old video. FMVSS 301 is a fuel tank integrity test, but watch the seats/occupants about 5 seconds in. Obviously the seat is doing nearly NOTHING in the crash. And this is only at 30mph!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxr_IwQkGv0 The other thing is that there is significant rebound after a frontal crash that the seat need to take too. Even an offset frontal crash (with side load) does bad things to these old seats... Look at these old 60's crash video's...you can see why you want the seat tied to the bar, or at least make sure the bar is below the top of the back to keep it from folding over. You can see in some of these clips that the seat actually has a bar welded behind it (Watch the rear impact at 1:52). The seat stays upright in a rear crash, and keeps the occupants safe. A perfect example why the bar needs to be below the top of the seat back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siT-SIfOnQw&feature=related Imagine spinning your super stocker around, or getting nailed by another fast car if you/he crossed the centerline? That cross bar would be right through your back. The bar should be below the top of the seat back to make sure it won't collapse completely, that's why they want it tied. Connecting it also keeps the seat from rocking in a side impact too.

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