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What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? #1244535
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Challenger.

I used some auto parts store stuff 10 years ago and its pretty smooth now, just wondering what everyone is using to be fairly accurate?

Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: wally426ci] #1244536
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The Harley Davidson brand works well for me

Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1244537
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I used VHT wrinkle black paint.

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Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: Chal340] #1244538
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Get the air cleaner hot, like 200-250 degrees in a oven. Then put a cover coat. Back in oven at 150-200 for 10-15 minutes. Then final coat or repeat once more. Doesn't need thick coats. Then bake for 1 hour at 150-200 degrees.

Will look very uniform and will be VERY durable. Way more uniform that factory. Factory had runs and not uniform coverage.

The run in this valve cover it because I put a coat on too thick. Next run I experimented with multiple very thin distant fog coats on that air cleaner top. That was over reacting and got paint everywhere . I got less wrinkle and more of a uniform textured look. Best technique was in between both those ideas with the same looking results as the distant fog coats.



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Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: wally426ci] #1244539
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Check with a local powder coater.
Not that expensive and the results are awesome and very durable.
Jules

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Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1244540
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Wow. Thanks for the responsses guys. I like the powder coat idea. I need to get a new lid if I am going that route.

Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: wally426ci] #1244541
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On that stuff I ran in the oven, I can run my fingernail across it pressing down as hard as I can and not scratch the paint.

Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: autoxcuda] #1244542
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On that stuff I ran in the oven, I can run my fingernail across it pressing down as hard as I can and not scratch the paint.




I don't know about the OP. But my wife would scratch my eyes out if I cook car parts in her oven.


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Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: autoxcuda] #1244543
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Powder coating has it's place and looks great, however it does not result in a 100% factory appearance, mainly because a powder coated finish is too even where as a painted part is less even and more blotchy between smooth and wrinkled areas. Also, if you have ANY dings, scrapes, or other imperfections they WILL show through powder coating, same goes for the paint but to a lesser degree than powder coat.


Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: wally426ci] #1244544
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I used the VHT wrinkle plus but you dont have to put it in the oven apply 3 even heavy coats then put the parts out in the sun and watch it wrinke then bring it inside done if the parts are preped takes about 1/2 hour to do

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Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1244545
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Powder coating has it's place and looks great, however it does not result in a 100% factory appearance, mainly because a powder coated finish is too even where as a painted part is less even and more blotchy between smooth and wrinkled areas. Also, if you have ANY dings, scrapes, or other imperfections they WILL show through powder coating, same goes for the paint but to a lesser degree than powder coat.






Scott in the day of concours incorrect over restoration I would have thought that the overdone look of powdercoat would be welcomed ???


Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: JohnRR] #1244546
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Scott in the day of concours incorrect over restoration I would have thought that the overdone look of powdercoat would be welcomed ???





Welcomed by who? I am not part of that "concours incorrect over restoration" crowd so I guess I missed your point?

Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1244547
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I'm sure it would be welcomed by someone ???

Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1244548
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The Harley Davidson brand works well for me



The H.D. Wrinkle black never occurred to me! GREAT IDEA! Thank You , Scott

Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: kidmopar] #1244549
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We just did a 69 HiPo air cleaner today in my oven for Troy's 69 340 Swinger in Kylon wrinkle.

Maybe he will post pictures??

Heated oven to 170 degrees. Put air cleaner in for about 10-15 minutes. Sprayed a pretty decent wet coat of paint. Back in over for 15 minutes. Noticed some thin spots. Out of oven for 2nd coat put on all the way around. Back in over for 20 minutes.

He liked what he saw, so he took it out. Was nervous about it changing it's look if left longer. Personally, I think he should have left it in there for an hour. It would be fully dried by then and I think be more durable.

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I can just "see" my wife if I tried to stick an air cleaner in HER oven!

Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: kidmopar] #1244551
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Talk about a small world....this is what Steve and I did today.

Preheat oven to 170 degrees.
Place part in oven for 5 to 8 min.
Pull part out and apply a medium coat of paint on part.
Place back in oven for 10 to 13 minutes.
Pull part out of oven and apply second medium coat of paint on part.
Place back in oven for 15 minutes.
Let cool and your done.
Last but not least.....don't let the wife find out that your cooking car parts in her oven.

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Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: Troy] #1244552
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.....Looks good and came out very even..

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Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: Troy] #1244553
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Last one.

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Re: What brand of wrinkle finish on 71 340 Air Cleaner? [Re: Troy] #1244554
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Another tip....Once done painting and letting them cool off avoid letting any part of the painted surface to contact anything for at least a couple days, the paint takes some time to harden off and sometimes what seems cool/dry/cured, is actually still soft enough to take imprints from objects in contact with it, even really soft objects like packing bubble wrap, etc.

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