Re: fuel supply
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Either get a cell or have a sump installed in your factory tank for fuel storage. I can't really tell you what size pump to get but use at least a 1/2" line with a return regulator (I wish I would have / I am currently running 3/8" line with a dead head reg). 3/8" line will probably be o.k. for you engine now but you know you will upgrade in the future and extra fuel is better than not enough. This is all coming from what the experts here have written.
Thanks for the info, the parts catalog is overwhelming with fuel supply options, it makes me dizzy.
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Re: fuel supply
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05/16/12 02:00 PM
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Either get a cell or have a sump installed in your factory tank for fuel storage. I can't really tell you what size pump to get but use at least a 1/2" line with a return regulator (I wish I would have / I am currently running 3/8" line with a dead head reg). 3/8" line will probably be o.k. for you engine now but you know you will upgrade in the future and extra fuel is better than not enough. This is all coming from what the experts here have written.
Thanks for the info, the parts catalog is overwhelming with fuel supply options, it makes me dizzy.
I know how you feel. As far the fuel pump goes, it seems that a lot of people use and like the Mallory 140 pump. I have a Quick Fuel brand pump but they don't make it any more. Any way, my pump is rated at 140 gph and I have a good feeling it is actually a "re-branded" Mallory 140.
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Re: fuel supply
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Either get a cell or have a sump installed in your factory tank for fuel storage. I can't really tell you what size pump to get but use at least a 1/2" line with a return regulator (I wish I would have / I am currently running 3/8" line with a dead head reg). 3/8" line will probably be o.k. for you engine now but you know you will upgrade in the future and extra fuel is better than not enough. This is all coming from what the experts here have written.
Thanks for the info, the parts catalog is overwhelming with fuel supply options, it makes me dizzy.
I know how you feel. As far the fuel pump goes, it seems that a lot of people use and like the Mallory 140 pump. I have a Quick Fuel brand pump but they don't make it any more. Any way, my pump is rated at 140 gph and I have a good feeling it is actually a "re-branded" Mallory 140.
I am leaning towards the Quick fuel also. Jeggs has one for $191 with 1/2" inlet/ outlet that flows 175gph with a few nice features. Now to find a bypass style regulator, a 1/2" pickup, lines, fittings, filter, clamps... Where does the money go?
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Re: fuel supply
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05/16/12 03:38 PM
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Either get a cell or have a sump installed in your factory tank for fuel storage. I can't really tell you what size pump to get but use at least a 1/2" line with a return regulator (I wish I would have / I am currently running 3/8" line with a dead head reg). 3/8" line will probably be o.k. for you engine now but you know you will upgrade in the future and extra fuel is better than not enough. This is all coming from what the experts here have written.
Thanks for the info, the parts catalog is overwhelming with fuel supply options, it makes me dizzy.
I know how you feel. As far the fuel pump goes, it seems that a lot of people use and like the Mallory 140 pump. I have a Quick Fuel brand pump but they don't make it any more. Any way, my pump is rated at 140 gph and I have a good feeling it is actually a "re-branded" Mallory 140.
I am leaning towards the Quick fuel also. Jeggs has one for $191 with 1/2" inlet/ outlet that flows 175gph with a few nice features. Now to find a bypass style regulator, a 1/2" pickup, lines, fittings, filter, clamps... Where does the money go?
Earl's SS "Push-Lock" style fuel line is awesome, btw.
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Re: fuel supply
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05/16/12 04:25 PM
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fuel systems often come down to a matter of personal choice and imho most guys go overboard cause racers like crows are attracted to shiny stuff. first thing you need to figure out is how much HP you intend to feed, then if you want to go electric or not. i often use Dwayne Porters car as an example. afaik he had a completely stock fuel system with the exception of a carter high volume mechanical pump. this was the performance of that setup Quote:
11.18 @ 123, 1.51 60', fast68plymouth, 68 Satellite, 383, stock 906's, 3550lbs
personally if you wanted to run an electric pump on your car i would use a mallory 140 as i do not care for the sliding vane pumps, "bargains" rarely are a bargain. although it's more expense and work a return style system is the best. that said using Dwayne's car as an example you can see that a monster system is not required.
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Re: fuel supply
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05/17/12 02:52 PM
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Thanks Guys for all the input. My plan is, street driven 500" stroker (because I have to build something). According to what I have read, 600-650 HP with Edelbrock performer heads, solid lift cam on the high side, a good rocker set up, (harland sharp), tti headers, MSD, and stock six pack intake. I wan't electric on the pump with a bypass regulator and return. Found out that I can change to larger pickup and use stock tank. I know 1/2 may be overkill but I have to redo the 5/16" old stuff any way, Should I just go with 3/8"(-6AN)? As far as the pump, I like the Aeromotive street /strip, the holley HP 150 or the edelbrock quiet flow. The holley comes with a regulator, I am assuming a "dead head type" not with a bypass/ return. Too many choices. The car is a 69 Bee, originally a 383, now all A-12.
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Re: fuel supply
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05/17/12 02:59 PM
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Thanks Guys for all the input. My plan is, street driven 500" stroker (because I have to build something). According to what I have read, 600-650 HP with Edelbrock performer heads, solid lift cam on the high side, a good rocker set up, (harland sharp), tti headers, MSD, and stock six pack intake. I wan't electric on the pump with a bypass regulator and return. Found out that I can change to larger pickup and use stock tank. I know 1/2 may be overkill but I have to redo the 5/16" old stuff any way, Should I just go with 3/8"(-6AN)? As far as the pump, I like the Aeromotive street /strip, the holley HP 150 or the edelbrock quiet flow. The holley comes with a regulator, I am assuming a "dead head type" not with a bypass/ return. Too many choices.
Me personally, I would not want all of the extra plumbing going to the reg. then back to the cell so I would get a pump that bypasses directly to the cell instead. I chased my tail and et`s for years till Iinstalled a REAL pump like the Magnafuel 300 and my et`s dropped and I`d rather have TOO much fuel than not enuff...............A 140 pump w/a 500 in. motor?...........
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Re: fuel supply
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05/17/12 03:09 PM
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If you plan on staying in the 11 - 11.50 ET range, stock tank will work. Holley 150HP pump. 3/8" line to dead head regulator. -6 to carbs. Simple, not too costly, and will give you plenty of juice to run in the mid to low 11's. That set up will flow about 1 gallon in 30 seconds - measured at the carb inlet lines ( 2 -6 lines in my case).
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Re: fuel supply
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05/17/12 04:47 PM
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Something else I have been reading about is a fuel log setup with a return regulator regulating a "main" fuel supply line at a high pressure (20-30 lbs) with dead head regs branching off of the log for the motor and/or nitrous system. This system would need a good pump that can reach high pressures. The point is to try and eliminate pressure drops. I don't know if you plan on running spray but this may be another option you want to look into. I hope I haven't added more confusion.
Sounds good. No spray, just motor. Had spray on previous street car, brand "x", for my use it was just too much hassle.
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