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273 style rocker adjustment baseline(ordering pushrods) #1216727
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Got my basic measurement, but wasn't there a preferred amount of adjuster thread you want sticking out the underside of the rocker?

(AND not taking the lock nut into consideration,
I would assume you want equal amounts of available adjustment both "up and down" when you measure for a pushrod effective length?)
so maybe three threads "above" the nut, and three threads "below" the rocker body?
Need to order tomorrow, please advise?
Casey

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Casey I sent answered your PM , But ASSuMEing the rule of thumb applies to all , 2-3 thread BELOW the rocker , above doesn't matter though I like to see at least one thread above a nut , if you have none your adjusters are too short.

Is this a HYD. or solid cam ? if hyd. don't forget preload in that lengtth calculation, solid don't forget lash.

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set it to where you have 1 to 1&1/2 threads showing underneath. & Yes figure your lash or preload added in.


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Thanks, guys!
Got your PMs,this is a hydraulic flat tappet cam.
My base measurement is 6.937, with about 4 threads under the rocker, and close to the same above the nut, with zero lash.(NO preload)
Comp wants an .045 plunger preload.
I am thinking I will add another .083 to the length,
which should move about 2 threads from the bottom of the rocker to the top of the nut,(about .042 per thread on a 3/8 24 bolt), leaving a turn for preload,and a little more room to adjust "down" as nothing should really "grow" as it wears a little with break in,and over time?
I just don't want to cut it too close and get too far out where its a 140 dollar "oops".
I assume I can go .065 wall "stockies" as this cam is one jump above a stock 340? Do I need anything better?
Thanks, Case

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Thanks, guys!
Got your PMs,this is a hydraulic flat tappet cam.
My base measurement is 6.937, with about 4 threads under the rocker, and close to the same above the nut, with zero lash.(NO preload)
Comp wants an .045 plunger preload.
I am thinking I will add another .083 to the length,
which should move about 2 threads from the bottom of the rocker to the top of the nut,(about .042 per thread on a 3/8 24 bolt), leaving a turn for preload,and a little more room to adjust "down" as nothing should really "grow" as it wears a little with break in,and over time?
I just don't want to cut it too close and get too far out where its a 140 dollar "oops".
I assume I can go .065 wall "stockies" as this cam is one jump above a stock 340? Do I need anything better?
Thanks, Case




The adjusters are 3/8-24 on those rockers ?

Check a bunch to make sure one length will cut it , if the valve stem heights are off you may need a few different lengths , wouldn't be the first time .

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John, yup the adjusters are 3/8"-24 NF.
I went out and ended up running the same checks on over half, after I put a straight edge across both valve stem tops.Hard to see even a .020 variation
on all, both sides.I know they may run "uphill/downhill" so this is not all that accurate, just a visual.
What I see strongly suggests a 7.02 effective length will give all of them 1-3 threads under the rocker prior to preload.Hope I'm right.

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John, yup the adjusters are 3/8"-24 NF.
I went out and ended up running the same checks on over half, after I put a straight edge across both valve stem tops.Hard to see even a .020 variation
on all, both sides.I know they may run "uphill/downhill" so this is not all that accurate, just a visual.
What I see strongly suggests a 7.02 effective length will give all of them 1-3 threads under the rocker prior to preload.Hope I'm right.




you want 1-3 threads INCLUDING preload .

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John, with the inherent inaccuracies of my home made measuring tool in mind,I will shoot for that, but my reality is I am just not 100% confident
I can nail it THAT close.I felt the need to leave a tiny bit of room both ways, so I can still make it work even if I am off a few thou either way.
God willing, I should be within one turn of the screw both ways.
But I honestly respect your attention to detail, that's one of the reasons I like you!
Wish me luck.


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John, with the inherent inaccuracies of my home made measuring tool in mind,I will shoot for that, but my reality is I am just not 100% confident
I can nail it THAT close.I felt the need to leave a tiny bit of room both ways, so I can still make it work even if I am off a few thou either way.
God willing, I should be within one turn of the screw both ways.
But I honestly respect your attention to detail, that's one of the reasons I like you!
Wish me luck.













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