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$10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
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02/22/12 08:10 PM
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viperblue72
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Just got the new jegs catalog and all the mp crate motors are just outrageously priced. 360. 405hp-$10,230 440 super commando $13,134.99  340 six pack 330hp. $11,187 We are doomed.
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: EchoSixMike]
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02/22/12 10:08 PM
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Damn Ford can get you a 535HP Windsor for under $9K, full aluminum job for under $13k. Obviously, Mopar has much greater cost burden. S/F....Ken M
If you get the volume up then the prices come down. The Chevy 502 is probably one of the greatest crate engines ever. Not sure what their volume is, but I bet it is high enough that they can sell them at a good price and still make money on them. Hard for anyone in the industry to compete with that engine. A small shop would go broke trying to build engines for that price.
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: AndyF]
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02/22/12 10:35 PM
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Damn Ford can get you a 535HP Windsor for under $9K, full aluminum job for under $13k. Obviously, Mopar has much greater cost burden. S/F....Ken M
If you get the volume up then the prices come down. The Chevy 502 is probably one of the greatest crate engines ever. Not sure what their volume is, but I bet it is high enough that they can sell them at a good price and still make money on them. Hard for anyone in the industry to compete with that engine.
You said it! That's what we need though. There would be a lot more Mopar owners if it was more affordable.
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: bobs66440]
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02/22/12 11:27 PM
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if you just want to go fast you will do one of two things. 1- go chevy 2- go susike busa if you have class and care what you do it on you will do one of two things 1- go mopar 2- ride a kawasaki you can do both the good things like i did 
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: viperblue72]
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02/23/12 12:03 AM
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Just got the new jegs catalog and all the mp crate motors are just outrageously priced.
360. 405hp-$10,230
440 super commando $13,134.99
340 six pack 330hp. $11,187
We are doomed.
Funny, I was just looking through the new Jegs and saw the same thing. What a deal. 
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: AndyF]
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02/23/12 07:22 AM
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$13K for a 440 small block is actually a decent deal. That 427 inch small block that we did for Tim's car cost about $18K to build.
It is actually pretty tough to build a complete engine with brand new parts for less than $10K. I'd say those prices seem fair.
A 410 horse 360 would be tough to build for under 10k? 
Maybe you are right if its an r block and all but I can't see anybody spending 10k on a 360. The 360 crates used to be $3500 and look to be pretty near the same thing.
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: viperblue72]
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02/23/12 09:20 AM
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$13K for a 440 small block is actually a decent deal. That 427 inch small block that we did for Tim's car cost about $18K to build.
It is actually pretty tough to build a complete engine with brand new parts for less than $10K. I'd say those prices seem fair.
A 410 horse 360 would be tough to build for under 10k?
Maybe you are right if its an r block and all but I can't see anybody spending 10k on a 360. The 360 crates used to be $3500 and look to be pretty near the same thing.
Yeah, didn't they sell the same engine complete carb to pan a year or 2 ago for around $5000 (maybe $6000....the memory is the first thing to go they say)? If so, that is a HUGE price jump! 
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: viperblue72]
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02/23/12 09:28 AM
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$13K for a 440 small block is actually a decent deal. That 427 inch small block that we did for Tim's car cost about $18K to build.
It is actually pretty tough to build a complete engine with brand new parts for less than $10K. I'd say those prices seem fair.
A 410 horse 360 would be tough to build for under 10k?
Maybe you are right if its an r block and all but I can't see anybody spending 10k on a 360. The 360 crates used to be $3500 and look to be pretty near the same thing.
How about a production 6.4 Hemi for 6537.00 retail.
Now that a good price 
Too bad their not selling them now. Matt
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: viperblue72]
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02/23/12 10:02 AM
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patrick
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$13K for a 440 small block is actually a decent deal. That 427 inch small block that we did for Tim's car cost about $18K to build.
It is actually pretty tough to build a complete engine with brand new parts for less than $10K. I'd say those prices seem fair.
A 410 horse 360 would be tough to build for under 10k?
Maybe you are right if its an r block and all but I can't see anybody spending 10k on a 360. The 360 crates used to be $3500 and look to be pretty near the same thing.
360 crates used to be pulled off the factory line, and get a cam, spring, intake, and t-chain cover swap....if that crate is all new parts using an R block, forged crank, etc, that sounds like a reasonable deal...
isn't Stanton Racing Engines basically hand building all the crate small blocks now?
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: patrick]
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02/23/12 11:33 AM
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$13K for a 440 small block is actually a decent deal. That 427 inch small block that we did for Tim's car cost about $18K to build.
It is actually pretty tough to build a complete engine with brand new parts for less than $10K. I'd say those prices seem fair.
A 410 horse 360 would be tough to build for under 10k?
Maybe you are right if its an r block and all but I can't see anybody spending 10k on a 360. The 360 crates used to be $3500 and look to be pretty near the same thing.
360 crates used to be pulled off the factory line, and get a cam, spring, intake, and t-chain cover swap....if that crate is all new parts using an R block, forged crank, etc, that sounds like a reasonable deal...
isn't Stanton Racing Engines basically hand building all the crate small blocks now?
That's probably the biggest reason right there. they used to be production line engines, and thus, as mentioned earlier, the volume of product allowed the price to be lower.
now that they don't make 360s anymore, they have to either use all aftermarket parts, or hit junkyards and source used blocks.
speaking of which, a 5.9L is a great junkyard engine that can make good power for cheap (I could make 450 hp with about 1500 invested, starting out with a complete junkyard 5.9L)
still, for those prices, I only see class racers buying one to be in compliance with rules.
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Re: $10,000 360 crate motor. really mp?
[Re: viperblue72]
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02/23/12 11:37 AM
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You're just now noticing this? Good morning, and welcome to 2006  The factory hasn't made any cheap, brand new 5.9s since 2002. MP used up everything the factory made for a few years, sold many $6000 dollar crate motors based on factory engines and when they were gone that was that, which was circa '06. The foundation for the higher priced engines is a brand new $3000 dollar race block, Scat/K1/Diamond forged lower end components, Edelbrock heads (in the case of the 440, a special casting), and they're built by Gary Stanton Racing Engines. Please feel free to try to duplicate any of them with all brand new parts, paying a professional to machine, build, dyno test and warrantee it, and let us know how that works out Meanwhile...if you want a lower priced crate motor, try a brand new 425HP 6.1 HEMI for $6440 retail. Anywhere a small block will fit, a 6.1 Hemi will fit. Ask Jegs to tell you all about P5155437. The factory doesn't make those anymore either, they switched to 6.4 so get one while they're hot.
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