Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
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01/05/12 12:58 AM
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if you need it now you will pay but i cant afford to play that game and often buy brand new parts half of what retail is. just have to wait for it sometimes
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Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
[Re: 383man]
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01/05/12 01:16 AM
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Maybe you guys should try calling around to different dealers. My dealer beat Summit's price, another local dealer's price, Mancini's price, and another Mopar engine builder's price on a new Hemi block. For what it's worth, the other dealer I called was the most expensive (+$500), and the Mopar engine builder was the next cheapest (+$300). Some dealers charge list, others will cut you a break.
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Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
[Re: robnbird]
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01/05/12 01:53 AM
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I was looking at a web site called cassel ent, a site for hemi parts and they have polished stage V covers for $550 that look great but it would be nice to see them a little cheaper. I would like to know when and how the hemi parts prices became to the point of being stupid.
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Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
[Re: robnbird]
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01/05/12 07:27 AM
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as a Mopar racer from 1970 until now. I think It need to be said that Chrysler is in some cases rip off their racers. If not for the weekend racer this sport would fold. the reason I am saying this is because some of the mopar parts are stupid in price. a cast aluminum Hemi valve cover. the one with raised rib is agout &750. hey GM performance' most expensive BBC retails for only $385. I was at a local track which is 95% GM and was discussing with a small group that I was going to build a Hemi. Someone said you better plan to rob a bank first. Come on Chrysler give us some help.
It is not just Ma Mopar, it is Mopar vendors as well... saw a set of repop aluminum door hinges for the 64 on Ebay for $800??? No way the fab for them should be any where that expensive. There was a guy on here talking about making them, not seen anymore about it but would hope someone could repop some parts and not gouge the faithful.
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Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
[Re: 64HemiSavoy]
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01/05/12 09:45 AM
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I would expect Mopar parts to be a little more expensive, as you'll sell one Mopar part to 5 Chevy parts. But in saying that, a lot of their parts are really over priced, and there are better options in the after market.
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Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
[Re: 64HemiSavoy]
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01/05/12 09:56 AM
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It's strictly economics. Supply and demand.
We are a handfull compared to the chevie and ford racer market. And Mopar guys want choices just like the other makes. The problem is too many choices for the same comparable part. Usually this would mean competitive pricing. But, when every guy who makes a run of parts has to say I only want 30 peices when the other makes can order 100's of the equivalant part who do you think is going to be cheaper. This I can understand.
Mopar on the other hand will outspend other makes in a particular year for NASCAR. Feeding and number of teams and covering the track at Daytona with Dodge Intrepids. Then allow NASCAR to rule them out of competition. Seems a better effort would be to make the Mopar brand parts more affordable so the little guy can get out and promote their brand. If we did not get beat up on so bad buying the Mopar brand we may have a financail opportunity to compete better.
Over the years their have been some Mopar labeled parts that were very affordable. The master cylinders is a good example of where this was not the case for no good reason. For years every tube chassis car in the pits had this master cylinder. You can buy the equalivant master cylinder through a parts store for half the price. Why? The other makes didn't mind spending the money and you would think the profits would have benefited somewhere else in our Mopar parts stores. The small block 420 intake. It was not legal in NASCAR so it was never mass sold. But, the chevy guys do not balk in buying them for $500. The killer is out of the box the intake is junk. $500 for an intake that cost no more to produce than anything. The R blocks began life at $2000. This block was the platform for all the high end W heads. Again Mopar had no program to buy a complete head ready to run that was competive. The lack of demand for the heads, block, and intakes caused the blocks to go up. Last I heard they were over $3000 and there were times when you could not get one. If they had just made the combo affordable to start with. Indy and edelbroc would have missed half their market. We raced our hearts out with the stuff and never got any support from Mopar and they never made the products affordable simply because they said there was not enough demand. Simple BS. Indy spent a boatload of money buying a head program from Batten and has sense sold a lot of heads. The Indy head is a great class option but for all out racing Mopar missed a golden opportunity.
It is not all Mopars fault. Here is where I dispute everything that I just wrote. You have 10 wannabee hard core racers Five run a Ford the other Five want a Mopar. All five ford guys will drop the $10,000 for a complete head package. Two Mopar guys step up to the plate and make the plunge. The following year 50 ford guys are repeating the process. The Mopar guy stands back and complains the price is too high.
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Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
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well I just hang up the phone with a Chrysler parts person who listened to what I had to say and said they will have someone to call back. now Im not trying to shoot the piano player, Chrysler (mopar performance) may not do anything and if they don't Im not going to be a rude dude. I just don't think they have to sell this valve cover part #p5007796 for $700 plus. that is a good definition of rediculous. About 375, well ok I can do that and not feel ripped of by my team leaders.
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Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
[Re: Leon441]
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01/09/12 11:09 PM
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It's strictly economics. Supply and demand.
The price can definitely have something to do with the demand. Why are there so many Chevy and Ford gearheads? One, I think, is because there are more of them and therefore cheaper, and more demand.
But if Chrysler priced the stuff right, they could create their own increased demand and thereby increase volume. But no, they have to milk the hell out of their stuff.
Bottom line - don't abuse or take for granted loyal customers.
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Re: mopar needs to consider their supporters
[Re: robnbird]
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01/10/12 11:56 AM
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well I just hang up the phone with a Chrysler parts person who listened to what I had to say and said they will have someone to call back. now Im not trying to shoot the piano player, Chrysler (mopar performance) may not do anything and if they don't Im not going to be a rude dude. I just don't think they have to sell this valve cover part #p5007796 for $700 plus. that is a good definition of rediculous. About 375, well ok I can do that and not feel ripped of by my team leaders.
. i just ran that part number(P5007796)and the suggested retail price from mopar is $918 and they are on backorder, so whoever you were getting them from for around $700 was giving you a great deal or as usual they can get them cheaper than the dealer (me). i deal with it daily...not only on the performance side but on domestic parts also...makes it tough to move there product for them, when it's price is so outa whack with most other aftermarket vendors. pretty much boils down to what's already been said "supply and demand".as long as we(racers/enthusiast)continue to pay the high prices the longer they will sell them.
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