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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
[Re: NachoRT74]
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12/29/11 12:46 AM
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unfortunately not close enough
live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
[Re: RapidRobert]
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12/29/11 01:02 AM
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well theeen won't be really posible a perfect quench at least in some pistons... The block was HORRIBLE BADLY DECKED. With around 0.012" diff between front and rear. It can't be fixed again since rears are now around 0 deck, maybe in fact couple of cents above.
add some cents more due the combustion chamber polish job, plus composite gasket, and I will be around 0.060 in front pistons and around 0.047 maybe ? in rears. I was to use metallic, but is not posible now with what I got in rear of the block, making mandatory to use composite
You can't imagine how much angry I am for this after lot of money and headaches, but is not posible to get an step back.
I made what I could, but when you have just idiots around with the machines, you can't make anything than pray to God ( I wasn't apparently heard )
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
[Re: NachoRT74]
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12/29/11 01:08 AM
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( unless I grind a little bit the rear cilinders flat combustion chamber section and still use metallic gaskets? but that will increase the compression too, close to 10.8 maybe )
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
[Re: NachoRT74]
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12/29/11 01:15 AM
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Sorry for your misfortune. would it be possible for you to plunge cut the chambers at each chamber end which'll have a side bennie of improveing flow and or can mill valve reliefs or mill the existing ones deeper. Maintain .150" deck thickness & you're good
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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
[Re: NachoRT74]
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12/29/11 01:15 AM
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10.6 with good effective quench will be easier to live with than 10.0 without quench....
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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
[Re: NachoRT74]
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12/29/11 01:19 AM
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well theeen won't be really posible a perfect quench at least in some pistons... The block was HORRIBLE BADLY DECKED. With around 0.012" diff between front and rear. It can't be fixed again since rears are now around 0 deck, maybe in fact couple of cents above.
add some cents more due the combustion chamber polish job, plus composite gasket, and I will be around 0.060 in front pistons and around 0.047 maybe ? in rears. I was to use metallic, but is not posible now with what I got in rear of the block, making mandatory to use composite
You can't imagine how much angry I am for this after lot of money and headaches, but is not posible to get an step back.
I made what I could, but when you have just idiots around with the machines, you can't make anything than pray to God ( I wasn't apparently heard )
You got what you got... SO... run it.... is it the
best... NO... will it run... YES.... BUMMER about
your block and the LACK of machine work... quality...
you might be using different plugs in the front to
the rear... maybe jetting also to balance the cyl's
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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
[Re: NachoRT74]
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12/29/11 01:51 AM
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I'm begining now my hunt for a new block, no matter conditions and even if need to sleeve, nice, since I have around same KB215s in standard size waiting for.
just the block and all the inners will be moved from one to the I HOPE SOON "new" block. Now I simply have to end to build and live with it.
I have some more "details" with this build. One of them: Some valves steems are at diff heights ( thanks God I got PRW adjustable rockers ), so that means the seats are deeper in some. Plus the angles are not right; machine shop made me 0-45- and I think 75 angle job. AND I TOLD THEM to make 30 on the chamber angle.
on the "good" side, the porting I made wasn't excesivelly bad even being my first job on this kind of stuff. After the big grinds I made, I sent the heads to a friend to make equal all the volumes. I got 208 +/-1 CCs on intake runners, 64 +/-1 CCs on exhaust runners and between 91 and 91.5 CCs on combustion chambers ( 452 heads )
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
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12/29/11 02:03 AM
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AH!! that was what I made before this result... I had the OPPOSITE slope. Fronts around 0.017 deck clearence and rears around 0.026 deck clearence, so around 0.008-9 difference. Sent to machine shop to correct this, and now I am WORST. No way, I'm not taking the risk, not at least at this moment
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: 0.060"... is still decent enough for quench ?
[Re: RapidRobert]
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12/30/11 11:48 AM
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I'd like, but is not that easy to get a "green card" to live in USA being foreigner. I just have "easy" the tourist deal but that's just because my spanish origins gave mne the right to the European Passport ( I have Spanish nationality allong with the Venezuelan ). I don't need anykind of permission to enter in USA as tourist, just fill a from on line to report my visit, but that's it!
You have not Idea how many forms and requirements needs to get and give to the USA Embassy a regular Venezuelan to go to USA just as a tourist. And maybe just 70% or less get the aproovements.
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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