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FED versus Altered! #1104862
10/31/11 07:04 PM
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With one would be most fun to drive?
Same engine and trans.
Thinking of switching to an altered insted of my FED.
But i have never driven an altered.

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Cuda, -70
Valiant-65 AWB,
Valiant Signet200 -65 Topchopped dragcar.
Topolino Fuel Altered.
NostalgiaFED Sold,
SuperComp Bantam Altered, Sold
Ex Harlan Thompsons Nitro funny car American Graffiti Sold,
Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: fed] #1104863
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I dont see how anything could be much more fun to drive then that car in the pic.. other then longer wheel base is there really much different?

Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: Chris Vanover] #1104864
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Is an altered not just a short wheel base FED? If you're tired of the dragster you can send it to me


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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: Chris Vanover] #1104865
10/31/11 07:39 PM
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BEST of both worlds ... a short FED .... THIS ONE is ferr sail BTW ......

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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: DragDart360] #1104866
10/31/11 07:41 PM
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The FED is really a lot of fun to drive,
but im usually alone on the races and i thought an Altered , would be a little easyer to handle in the pits.

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Cuda, -70
Valiant-65 AWB,
Valiant Signet200 -65 Topchopped dragcar.
Topolino Fuel Altered.
NostalgiaFED Sold,
SuperComp Bantam Altered, Sold
Ex Harlan Thompsons Nitro funny car American Graffiti Sold,
Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: fed] #1104867
10/31/11 08:01 PM
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FED you are sitting behind the axle, legs over.
Altered or F/C, you are sitting on top of the axle or slightly ahead.


I'd guess that the FED with less eye height and backside closer to the ground would feel faster, even ignoring those slicks next to your elbows.
Aside from less overall length making it steer tighter, I don't know how the same drivetrain would make it easier. Adding cooling?

Haven't driven either, but have dreamed of both!

Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: RodStRace] #1104868
10/31/11 09:19 PM
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I love my 4-Link roadster. Its pretty forgiving on slick or rougher tracks and about as consistent as a car can be. I think it depends on the the quality of the track surfaces at the tracks you frequent. If the tracks are rough then a 4-link Altered\Roadster is what you need. If you race at track like Norwalk then a FED would be fine.



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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: fed] #1104869
10/31/11 09:29 PM
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The FED is really a lot of fun to drive,
but im usually alone on the races and i thought an Altered , would be a little easyer to handle in the pits.


They're both fun to drive but as you said the altered is definitely easier to handle in the pits, 90 degree staging lanes, 180 hairpin return roads like some of our little 1/8th mile tracks that don't have a lot of extra room. A bud of mine has a 200" Tuttle car with a 358" Injected alky P7 thats running 7.40's 1/4 mile and the car runs so straight he's actually getting bored with it. Judging by some Go-Pro video I've seen I can understand why, car is on a string. My car, while going straight most of the time, will jump up and bite me when I least expect it, keeps it interesting......

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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: 23T Hemmee] #1104870
10/31/11 10:04 PM
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Altered all the way!



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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: bigtimeauto] #1104871
10/31/11 10:47 PM
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Not sure how you guys drive those things with the butter fly steering wheels. I see a couple of altereds locally that use a small regular steering wheel and have front brakes and can do a typical burnout, and that would be the car I could drive, and as said, a 4-link will make it very tuneable for the car and track...

FED's are cool, and I always like seeing them. Couldn't imagine driving one though..


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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: fed] #1104872
11/01/11 01:23 PM
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Had both, both ton's of fun! My FED was a 165" wheelbase with the engine way back, it ran a shorty trans with just a 4" coupler. The altered is a solid car, a Cadillac to drive.


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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: fed] #1104873
11/01/11 02:40 PM
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you must have been to close to cajan getting those thoughts on your mind

more serious i think a altered would be alitle easier getting down the track since i have seen plenty of FEDīs going way above crazy wheelsup compared to altereds who usualy goes quick or just end up in a cloud of smoke kjula seems to be a pretty hardhooking track but im not an expert on judging that just my

is it that hard to put alitle crew togheter? i wouldnt hessitate helping you out at the track if it hadnt been for the fact that im already occupied helping someone out,it takes alot of time but well worth it and cant see that it would be impossible to get alitle crew togheter for such a cool car

Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: 1Fast340] #1104874
11/01/11 03:26 PM
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If you know some people around Stockholm that want to help ut, let me know.


Cuda, -70
Valiant-65 AWB,
Valiant Signet200 -65 Topchopped dragcar.
Topolino Fuel Altered.
NostalgiaFED Sold,
SuperComp Bantam Altered, Sold
Ex Harlan Thompsons Nitro funny car American Graffiti Sold,
Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: fed] #1104875
11/04/11 12:24 AM
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I'd love to try an FED.

Here's a vid of my buddy's son, Willie. Nickname is WhiteSlip Willie. He moved from Jr Dragsters last year to this beast this year. He's 16 or 17, can't remember.

SBC with a mechanical injection of some sort. It's old school.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO9MjJ8_jt0

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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: codfish] #1104876
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Ive driven ..Test driven..filled in as driver both (looking to find my pics)
Fisrt off my personal impressions..
Ive driven a modern link/shock topilino...Fun
but 9.33et we/I never got a fullspeed pass..and aside form the primative cockpit it drove like a car..

Ive driven an Injected Aletered (aluminum buick/range rover engine) with small amount of nitro.112"wheel base nostaliga car..ET 9.01
the most fun ive ever had..the injection set up allowed you to see ahead clearly.. the car had to be driven/steered &shifted .. and its the best memories i have..I want one..!!

Ive driven a real nostalgia Sbc blown (not modernised) 123" FED..Honestly Everything about that car was a blast except the driving..A pain to get into and out of..i couldnt see anything inside the car..
and people park there damn golf carts in the worst places...you find all of them in a dragster.
the power was incredible..but after about 3 straight weekends the driving part got boring.
but everyone comes to the line..when a blown fed pulls in...thats hard to deny...fun..

Ive driven a modern rear engine bbc 225" wheel base "spitster" style dragester..et 8.0's
IMHO all of the negatives..and the only good part of the ride is the shot when the tires grab after the burn out..
and the launch on the leave...the rest..a monkey could do...they are lawn Darts.

Just my opinon yours may vary..
Id take a AA/Fa alterd any day..
just not the modern suspension/shocked up,,Winged up..fiberglass airfoil wedge, spoiler type..
those things are fugggley...
Gimme an old school with a buick or hemi engine
injection with a splash of benzene...
or blown..gotta have enough body panels to have a CRAZY METAL FLAKE PAINT JOB..!!!

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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #1104877
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Cheapstreet gets it.........


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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: 23T Hemmee] #1104878
11/04/11 12:32 PM
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This ones for sale if interested..
http://www.elisanet.fi/woodstockracing/


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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: jyrki] #1104879
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Codfish, that digger is way overtired! It would run a lot better with a 10.5" tire on it.


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Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: jyrki] #1104880
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This ones for sale if interested..
http://www.elisanet.fi/woodstockracing/



A little to new and serious!
I like the oldschool look!

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Cuda, -70
Valiant-65 AWB,
Valiant Signet200 -65 Topchopped dragcar.
Topolino Fuel Altered.
NostalgiaFED Sold,
SuperComp Bantam Altered, Sold
Ex Harlan Thompsons Nitro funny car American Graffiti Sold,
Re: FED versus Altered! [Re: fed] #1104881
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I think it's from the early 80's, originally an Omni024 funny car.

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