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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1090946
11/05/11 04:20 PM
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Post a picture, sounds like it's been replaced and had some paint touch up.

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1090947
11/05/11 04:44 PM
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well then, that makes things much easier. i'll not worry about the lost car, and the guys claim this motor was replaced is just another story.....


"When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1090948
11/06/11 09:47 PM
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Thanks to all who posted!

Here's my next victim, just got it home, probably be a week or so before I can post the details. It's a really early 1971 engine, 4 speed engine (bell housing, etc still attached) LA plant VIN to boot. Really clean "survivorish" engine, never appart, all original paint, just a few tune up parts changed and has a replacment distributor, alternator, and is missing the choke, drivers engine mount, and starter.




Is there part of the negative battery cable still attached to the front of the head? Is that where the cable is supposed to be attached?

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: Golden-Arm] #1090949
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scott, when i picked up my 69 340 a couple of weeks ago, the guy was cool, and threw the trans in, with the deal. motor is complete except for the manifolds and fan (blewbyu somehow managed to buy from the motor.... ) and it's all there, including starter, alternator, fuel pump, carb, etc. can get you some numbers when i get it out of the trailer.

will ask the "a" body guys to post in the various forums, to see if anyone has the car for this motor, and if they do, i'd swap it for another 340. mine did turn over, and nothing seems broken/missing externally. mines going into a dakota, so the starter, intake and carb, alternator and brackets, dizzie, etc., may be available, as i wont need them. thats UNLESS someone finds the car to match the numbers, and the person actually wants it.





Sorry about the parts missing but when i seen the add on Ebay it said those items where not included with the auction for the motor, so i called the guy and asked if he had them and wanted to sell them, and he said yes. The manifolds were spot on date code for my car and my fan blade was bent up. On another note are you saying the motor was a 69 date 340 and not the numbers matching to that Demon. As it sure looked like a correct 71 engine to me in the pictures.

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: blewbyu] #1090950
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That is a pretty cool engine crate you got there. never seen a portable one before.

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1090951
11/07/11 09:12 PM
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My 340 has a cast date of 01.18.71 but the VIN stamped on it is 3G. They waited a while to put this motor into something. I tried to post pics but they are 10M and won't upload.


1972 Cuda 340 4 speed, 2001 Ram CTD 4x4 6 speed, 1970 Duster 408 4 speed, 1996 Ram 5.9 2x4 auto, 1965 Coronet 500
Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: blewbyu] #1090952
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thanks. 300 bucks off the local craigslist, and it'll carry the engine and trans back to florida, and i'll resell it for a beach trailer, or whatever. as for the "correct" 69 or 71 thing, it's casting #2780930-340-1 Date code 1-17-69. scott says it was the correct motor. i guess like the hemis, they cast so many, the original run lasted for 3 model years. i didnt look at the vin in the car, as i had no interest in it, so i couldnt verify the numbers matching. had it been a black '72, i woulda looked, as i've been looking for my original demon for 20 years. i added bearing buddies to the trailer, and i'm gonna get new bearings, before i head back home. new tires are already done.

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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: Golden-Arm] #1090953
11/13/11 10:59 AM
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This thread needs a jump start:

There must be some more 340's out there.

Sooooo........

LET'S SEE 'EM!

Thanks,

Bill Rolik

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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: bremotorsports] #1090954
11/13/11 05:02 PM
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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: Steve340] #1090955
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Can you spot how many things are not original in these pictures?

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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: Steve340] #1090956
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Can you spot how many things are not original in these pictures?



pvc valve
master cyl cap
exh manifold
dist cap and wires
heater hose
oil fill cap

what do i win???

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: ademon] #1090957
11/15/11 03:28 PM
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Numbers from my original trans

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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1090958
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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1090959
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Anyone have any good pictures of a correct 73 A body 340 ?

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1090960
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Picked up today. Owner says it was put on the shelf in 1975. No info on the car it came from. It looks untouched. I can post more detail shots if anyone is interested.

- Casting 3512100
- Casting date 6 19 70
- Solenoid DR1114429
- Studs for the carb

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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: floyd] #1090961
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Picked up today. Owner says it was put on the shelf in 1975. No info on the car it came from. It looks untouched. I can post more detail shots if anyone is interested.

- Casting 3512100
- Casting date 6 19 70
- Solenoid DR1114429
- Studs for the carb





I didnt think they had studs for the carb on 71 340s? any rhyme or reason to having studs vs. bolts? any interest in selling the solenoid?

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1937 Plymouth PT50
1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 4 speed
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Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: mopars_1] #1090962
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While that looks largely unmolested I've never seen studs on a 71 intake either, I'm doubtful that they are OEM. What is the date code on the temp sender?

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1090963
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For those of us who are novices in the numbers game, is there a guide to refer to that indicates the location and translation of these numbers? Never had a 340 car before, but I'm looking at one and don't have much info on how to verify if it's the original engine for the car or not. I'll be asking a non-Mopar guy to check it out for me, since it's not in my area and I'd like to be able to clearly tell him what to look out for.

Great thread so far, by the way!

Re: Warning! Totally Anal Long Winded O.E. 340 Thread! [Re: ChryCoGuy] #1090964
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Well first of all it sounds like you are sending an unarmed soldier into battle, or at best, handing him a rifle he's never fired and doesn't even know how to load and saying "good luck!"

In other words, making a purchase decision based on a novice doing some 3rd party numbers checking in an effort to verify a car isn't something I'd recommend. That's a job for someone with (at minimum) some decent knowledge of the car in question, it's difficult enough even if you are experienced, especially with the rampant fraud that has entered the hobby these days concerning fake documentation, restamped drive trains and body parts, as well as the simple fact that many owners are ignorant to the real facts and will parrot what someone else has incorrectly told them about their cars.

All that said, to break down the numbers seen on this thread the only good guides that I'd recommend are Galen Goviers white books, and those can be a bit cryptic to decipher if you are a novice. Posting details on Moparts will likely get you the best answers the fastest.


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Well first of all it sounds like you are sending an unarmed soldier into battle, or at best, handing him a rifle he's never fired and doesn't even know how to load and saying "good luck!"

In other words, making a purchase decision based on a novice doing some 3rd party numbers checking in an effort to verify a car isn't something I'd recommend. That's a job for someone with (at minimum) some decent knowledge of the car in question, it's difficult enough even if you are experienced, especially with the rampant fraud that has entered the hobby these days concerning fake documentation, restamped drive trains and body parts, as well as the simple fact that many owners are ignorant to the real facts and will parrot what someone else has incorrectly told them about their cars.

All that said, to break down the numbers seen on this thread the only good guides that I'd recommend are Galen Goviers white books, and those can be a bit cryptic to decipher if you are a novice. Posting details on Moparts will likely get you the best answers the fastest.






The car is on the other side of the country so I can't see it personally. He's a long time friend who's been into cars for over 30 years, just not into Mopars (owns some nice brand "X" iron as well). Moreover this guy has offered to check it out and even store it at his place until I can get it shipped east... great guy!

It looks like it would be a reasonable deal whether it has the correct engine or not, if the body is as good as it looks, with original paint and everything else all there (i.e. not hot rodded or otherwise messed with) - it's not huge money.

No biggie for me as I've never really been a "numbers" or "value" guy... numbers would be a bonus, but in reality I just want something to drive and enjoy. More curiosity and interest in learning as much about these cars as I can.

I thought it might be a little more straight forward than that, but thanks anyway!

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