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Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? #1066291 08/30/11 11:02 PM 08/30/11 11:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 619 High Plains of South Dakota O olwhite64 OP mopar
olwhite64 OP mopar O Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 619 High Plains of South Dakota	I suppose it should seem obvious to me that it would eventually happen, but I thought I would have to be running a lot faster than 12.60's. I have never weighed the car, but I would guess it would probably weigh all of 3800 lbs. No transbrake, 3500 stall, 29.5 X 10.5 slicks, and I know I have less than 70 passes total on the car. It does have a spool in the 8 3/4 but I've never run it on the street; it been on the track only since I put it together. The left axle, (the one that didn't break) was twisted in the splines as well. Assuming the car led a pedestrian lifestyle before I got it, (that's what I'm told) I am just surprised that they had such a short lifespan. I have lots of friend that have been running stock axles (in faster cars) for years with no problems. Fwiw they twisted just out side of the spool. 6803111-DSC_0188wtmk.JPG (195 downloads)

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: olwhite64] #1066292 08/30/11 11:07 PM 08/30/11 11:07 PM
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scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	Stock axles and a spool are a no no and now you know why.

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: scatpacktom] #1066293 08/30/11 11:11 PM 08/30/11 11:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 619 High Plains of South Dakota O olwhite64 OP mopar
olwhite64 OP mopar O Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 619 High Plains of South Dakota	They would not have broke with a suregrip? I am seriously asking....

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: olwhite64] #1066294 08/30/11 11:30 PM 08/30/11 11:30 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: They would not have broke with a suregrip? I am seriously asking.... They ALL twist outside of the spool(the spool holds the splines straight).... I broke a stock axle 35 years ago... I always buy aftermarket for any car with any type of slicks... my currant axles have about 1 whole spline of twist and they've stayed there.... by the way... paint a white line down the whole length of the new axles when you put the new ones in.... you will learn ALOT from that line

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1066295 08/30/11 11:38 PM 08/30/11 11:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 619 High Plains of South Dakota O olwhite64 OP mopar
olwhite64 OP mopar O Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 619 High Plains of South Dakota	Thanks for the tip...I'm betting there is no such thing as a cheap Dana 60...

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: olwhite64] #1066296 08/31/11 12:40 AM 08/31/11 12:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,923 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,923 Bend,OR USA	It sounds like the axles got swapped from one side to the other, usually the left axle breaks first I have broken two stock 8 3/4 axles with posi, none since I bought Strange race axles. I also switch to 35 splines with the new axles and spools I now run a Dana 60 with the same 35 spline race axles as I started with 6 years ago in the 8 3/4 Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1066297 08/31/11 12:49 AM 08/31/11 12:49 AM
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Sledge_57 master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,027 Dearborn Hts, MI	Short lifespan? That was what, a 45 year old axle you were abusing? Anyway I did the same thing with a locker, I went to Strange after mine broke... Doug 1967 "Pedal Car" 500" low deck , TF 727, 4.30 Locker Best to Date: 11.67 @ 114.9 1.64 60ft "Kids in cars cause accidents. Accidents in cars cause kids..."

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: Sledge_57] #1066298 08/31/11 01:32 AM 08/31/11 01:32 AM
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bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,857 Arlington, Texas	Broke an axle in my '66 Charger. 4150lbs. with me in it. Drag radials 4.30s with locker. Pretty exciting ride for a couple seconds.

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1066299 08/31/11 08:18 AM 08/31/11 08:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	ouch 12.60? Now I know I need to swap mine out ASAP. I have a set from DrDiff sitting next to the car. FWIW I ran 12.0's with stock rear/axles for and entire year w/ no problems 1.65 60 foot in a 3850lb car. This one has had only a few runs and 1.60 60 foot. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1066300 08/31/11 08:34 AM 08/31/11 08:34 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,326 A gulag near you.	Quote: ouch 12.60? Now I know I need to swap mine out ASAP. I have a set from DrDiff sitting next to the car. FWIW I ran 12.0's with stock rear/axles for and entire year w/ no problems 1.65 60 foot in a 3850lb car. This one has had only a few runs and 1.60 60 foot. When is the last time you looked at the splines on either car?

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: olwhite64] #1066301 08/31/11 08:35 AM 08/31/11 08:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,326 A gulag near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,326 A gulag near you.	Quote: They would not have broke with a suregrip? I am seriously asking.... No , they would break with a suregrip also.

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: JohnRR] #1066302 08/31/11 08:46 AM 08/31/11 08:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: ouch 12.60? Now I know I need to swap mine out ASAP. I have a set from DrDiff sitting next to the car. FWIW I ran 12.0's with stock rear/axles for and entire year w/ no problems 1.65 60 foot in a 3850lb car. This one has had only a few runs and 1.60 60 foot. When is the last time you looked at the splines on either car? never but I'll be looking at these soon as they will be swapped out before the next "outting" as I plan on making some 100% all out passes.

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1066303 08/31/11 09:29 AM 08/31/11 09:29 AM
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aquamist60 enthusiast Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 248 Ohio	I checked mine when it was running low 13's on street tires & a 4.10 gear. Saw they were just starting to twist after 1 1/2 years racing it & street duty. It was an E-body 8 3/4 rear narrowed. Put aftermarket with a sure grip & finally a spool. IIRC in the NHRA rule book it says aftermarket axles required with a spool.

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: aquamist60] #1066304 08/31/11 09:47 AM 08/31/11 09:47 AM
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fig426 top fuel F Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,103 East Coast, NJ	A friend of mine broke his in his 12.50 AAR. Chris from New Jersey

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: fig426] #1066305 08/31/11 09:56 AM 08/31/11 09:56 AM
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sshemi top fuel S Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,128 sweden	ofcourse they give up faster with a spool.

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: olwhite64] #1066306 08/31/11 11:20 AM 08/31/11 11:20 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Thanks for the tip...I'm betting there is no such thing as a cheap Dana 60... Go to the bone yard and see what you can find... you dont want the HEAVY DUTY one.... the tubes are THICK

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: olwhite64] #1066307 08/31/11 08:31 PM 08/31/11 08:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,941 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,941 NC	I broke a stock axle on my 3700 lb 1973 Barracuda with 440, 3900 converter, 1.55 sixty foot, 8-3/4 rear, suregrip, slicks. I don't remember exactly, but maybe 150 passes. Aftermarket axles after that and no problems.

Re: Broke a stock axle @ the track; happen to anybody else? [Re: 440Jim] #1066308 08/31/11 08:42 PM 08/31/11 08:42 PM
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dvw I Live Here Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,056 MI, usa	I ran resplined axles with a sure grip for over 15 years 11.60@3800lbs. They had 1 spline of twist when replaced. I also ran 12.50@3750lbs with a stick for about 100 passes with the same amount of twist. Both on slicks. Doug

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