Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? #1033160
07/15/11 08:30 PM
07/15/11 08:30 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,091
oberlin, Ohio
Rapid340 Offline OP
top fuel
Rapid340  Offline OP
top fuel

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,091
oberlin, Ohio
Has anyone found any power (or loss) going from a good mopar chrome or gold ignition to an MSD box in a higher compression motor? I am thinking the MSD box delivers higher voltage to the plugs but less duration.

I know one guy who made the change and doesnt think he gained anything (other than better idle) in a high compression HEMI

Thanks


1971 Factory Appearing Duster 340 11.000 @ 122 mph
Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: Rapid340] #1033161
07/15/11 09:33 PM
07/15/11 09:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,531
Jacksonville, FL
Chris2581 Offline
master
Chris2581  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,531
Jacksonville, FL
No gain with us.The gold box works great!


Nautilus Racing-
We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: Rapid340] #1033162
07/15/11 10:01 PM
07/15/11 10:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY Offline
Master
MR_P_BODY  Offline
Master

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
I went from the gold box to a 7-AL and had 0 change

Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1033163
07/15/11 11:10 PM
07/15/11 11:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
rowin4 Offline
master
rowin4  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
I went from a Mallory dual point distributor to an pro billet and a msd 6-al and didn't pick up .001


it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: rowin4] #1033164
07/15/11 11:23 PM
07/15/11 11:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
S
sixpackgut Offline
Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut  Offline
Drag Week Mod Champion
S

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
Quote:

I went from a Mallory dual point distributor to an pro billet and a msd 6-al and didn't pick up .001






0 gain. idled better though


Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135
Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram

performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs
Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: Rapid340] #1033165
07/15/11 11:24 PM
07/15/11 11:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,506
Az
Crizila Offline
master
Crizila  Offline
master

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,506
Az
Quote:

I am thinking the MSD box delivers higher voltage to the plugs but less duration.


MSD stands for Multi Spark Discharge = longer spark duration. Voltage "could" be higher also. If your existing ignition is working well with plenty of reserve and your A/F ratio is in the ball park you will see little difference.


Fastest 300
Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: Crizila] #1033166
07/15/11 11:26 PM
07/15/11 11:26 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
S
sixpackgut Offline
Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut  Offline
Drag Week Mod Champion
S

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
brad h did see a gain at the track, on the same day with a coil change


Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135
Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram

performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs
Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: Crizila] #1033167
07/15/11 11:28 PM
07/15/11 11:28 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
S
sixpackgut Offline
Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut  Offline
Drag Week Mod Champion
S

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,225
Charleston
Quote:

Quote:

I am thinking the MSD box delivers higher voltage to the plugs but less duration.


MSD stands for Multi Spark Discharge = longer spark duration.




below 3000 rpms


Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135
Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram

performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs
Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: sixpackgut] #1033168
07/15/11 11:32 PM
07/15/11 11:32 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
rowin4 Offline
master
rowin4  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
Quote:

Quote:

I went from a Mallory dual point distributor to an pro billet and a msd 6-al and didn't pick up .001






0 gain. idled better though





Idle? is that below 5000 rpm? Don't see much time below 7000


it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: Anyone picked up power going to an MSD box? [Re: Rapid340] #1033169
07/15/11 11:40 PM
07/15/11 11:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,172
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Online work
I Win
Cab_Burge  Online Work
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,172
Bend,OR USA
I switch from a early Mopar Chrome box race ignition with the blue heat sink and the proper Accel race coil to a MSD 404B and the special Mallory race coil, Pt# 28880, in my old 1970 hemi stocker, it started better cold, it idled better cold and it ran better in high gear in the summer when the L.A. basin was smogged in The spark plugs lasted forever also I don't remember exactly how much better, probally close to 3 MPH in the summer That nose heavy car(2160 lbs on the front tires, 1280 on the rear with no driver and a half tank of gas ) was a turd leaving the starting line, 4 speed on nine inch tires They call that getting experience I have used the MSD race boxes ever since, none of the street and strip 5 or 6 sereis boxes As already alluded to, if you have enough spark to light the fire, adding additional spark will not give measurable results, usually I also ended up opening the spark plug gap at the same time that I switch boxes, went from .035 to .090 I later went back to .045 with the races boxes and resitor wires and resitor spark plugs The 7 sereies boxes need the resitor wires, the earleir 404 race boxes didn't


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1