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Turbo size? Opinions welcome. #1001469
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Looking at what size turbo to go with. 440 small block 9.5:1, W9 heads(unported), MPFI with FAST XFI, stainless steel manifolds T4 flange (1 5/8ths), 727, 3.23 gears.

Looking to push about 10psi on the street and 14-18psi at the track.

Looking at something in this range.

87mm 1.25 Turbine housing T4 4” downpipe.

Good? Opinions?

Re: Turbo size? Opinions welcome. [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1001470
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Do you have any parts yet? If you're starting from scratch with those cubes, go T6 and look at something like a GT47 88.

Re: Turbo size? Opinions welcome. [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1001471
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You need something bigger than a T4 flange if you plan on a single. If not, you're going to seriously limit yourself on power and have insane back pressure.


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If it is for twins a T4 is good. Single you need a T6 and at least a 88mm probably better off with a 91... What are you looking to make for HP. Boost means nothing those W9 heads will flow alot.


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Right now I don't have anything. Not even a wastegate or anything. Just the motor. Space is my limitation. I was looking to do about 1000hp or about 800 to the wheels.

This is my old setup with a 408 and a supercharger. All the A/C stuff is gone as well as all the other stuff sitting in that corner.


Re: Turbo size? Opinions welcome. [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1001474
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Quote:

Space is my limitation.




You think you got space issues now?? Think about where your 5 inch DP is gonna go with a T6 like an S480! It is one honker of a turbo! I know, I got one.


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So it sounds like major fabrication or a set of twins.

Re: Turbo size? Opinions welcome. [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1001476
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The twins vs single debate will continue until the end of time.
What it boils down to is packaging. You should use whatever will fit in your engine compartment best.


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It is, but so is getting an BW s480. It might be easier to fit two 3.5 pipes vs one 4.5-5 inch pipe. plus 5 inch pipe costs a lot of money. a single s480 set-up will still be cheaper than twins, unless you use china turbos. If you have the money you can find a smaller T-6 80+ turbo than the Borg Warner, the Garrett GT-80 is about an inch small height and length.

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Will the 1 5/8th in header pipes work? I am sure I could hack up the fenders and create space. But a 5 inch downpipe won't fit in between the trans and frame. Would have to go to a bumper exhaust or something creative. How illegal is driving on the street with an exhaust sticking out of the front bumper?

This is what I can cut out to try and make something work. This will be street driven.



Old picture, but only one I have of the passenger side bumper. Outline in white circle where the exhaust could possibly go.


Re: Turbo size? Opinions welcome. [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1001479
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You can remote mount it! Somewhere under the bed!! Alot more pipe involved but no worries about where to mount it!


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Been there, done that. The oil return pump is always a concern.

Re: Turbo size? Opinions welcome. [Re: Wilde Racing] #1001481
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Yea, not a big fan of the remote systems.

I am sure a good fabricator can make a T6 fit in there.

SDCE does make a twin kit that will fit.

http://www.sd-concepts.com/pages/cfTurboDakotaRT.cfm

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OMG, that looks tight.

I dont think you will like driving the truck if you dump the five inch out the front bumper. My truck was WAY lound when I had the 3 inch cut-out open with my five inch down pipe.

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Even more reason to go with a twin system. I can do two 3" pipes pretty easily and still be able to run some pipe to quite it down and be able to enjoy it on the street.

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saw this comming LOL


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Yea, well you can bask in it all you want. I don't like that twin system, but looks like my only real option vice going completely custom. Wish I was home to actually work on the damn thing.

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I'm doing a Ford Fox body right now, and I think I'm going to dump it right behind the front tire. 5" won't fit under the car, and I don't want to split into 2 pipes.

If you dump a single 5" at the bumper, there may be room to get a bullet style muffler. Might make it tolerable anyway.

Local guy has a GN with a 4" downpipe right in front of the front tire that he street drives, and it's not as loud as you'd think.

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Im dumping mine out the fender under the antenna. I will only see a few street miles so im not that worried about it.


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At this point I might forgo the entire turbo system and just slap some headers on it. Pending where I get orders too next I might not see the truck for 2-3 years. No need to dump all that extra money on it for it to sit. I can do that when I come back.







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