I understand Andy, but the tools i'm using are the same tools i used to install about a dozen or so other cams and i have not ever notice the indicator stall on the nose of the cam for this long of a duration of time. Not a big deal, just thought i might have a better ground lobe than what was on my other roller cams in the past. Adding duration on the nose of the cam, allowing the valve to stay open a bit longer at max lift would be cool or am i wrong in thinking that.