That new Max 8 engine is really something special. And not " For a Harley its a special engine" either. Its getting fantastic reviews plus unlike its competitors the valve clearance never needs adjusting. On a Ducati this can be quite the $$$$ and even my pride and joy Indian FTR1200 needs them adjusted at 20K Miles. HD never published HP numbers just torque. Now they have an engine where the power output exceeds the torque output all the while creating an engine with TONS of low end throttle response that continues waaaaay past 5000 RPM. When I bought my first ever modern motorcycle last year there were a couple models with inline 4 and an inline 3 power screaming engine. Im glad I went with the Indian FTR1200 and am now a fan of high performance liquid cooled V Twins.