Exactly my experience Soop. Laziness had nothing to do with my experience. I suspect private guys do not end up selling their overpriced beauties and I suspect the only way dealers sell their overpriced, used junk is by making the difference to a trade on the used truck look good on paper. I bought my 15 cash, no trade so it was easy to make a few phone calls out of town when the local dealers weren't serious about selling new or used.