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Re: urban mith
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Re: urban mith
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08/03/08 02:13 PM
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That if you have not changed your trans fluid in about 23 years or so, don't do it? 
So if you haven't changed your oil in 10K mikles, you wouldn't change it either?  
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Re: urban mith
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08/03/08 02:14 PM
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I had one once that it did knock the trans out of it was a old car that had sat allot so ..
Myth, hmmmmm all myths have a "little bit" of truth to them
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: urban mith
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I have seen the oposite happen several times also. I have seen guys come in with there trannys slippin and replaceing the fluid will make them start working again. I have saved several of my friens tranns doing this. I do agree about the tranny shops covering there buts. If the trans comes in for service and the fluid is old and stinky it probably means the tranny will not last real long one way or the other, if they change it and it goes out they get blamed because they just worked on it so they know from experiance it just isn't good to do it. On my personal vehicles and friends cars who have tranny issues it is quite amazeing how many time a tranny can be fixed just by changing the fluid, I always will try changing the tranny fluid first if it is just slipping. Makeing bad noises or gears not working at all are usually something else. If I buy a car with nasty fluid I do change it and have not had one fail on me yet 
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Re: urban mith
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08/03/08 04:36 PM
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Change it and adjust the bands. If there's a bunch of metal or clutch linings in the pan you might as well just drop it  out and go through it.
Yep,,,,pull the pan and ck for debris. if it's clean you might be ok
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Re: urban mith
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08/03/08 08:01 PM
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That if you have not changed your trans fluid in about 23 years or so, don't do it?
I wouldn't do it unless you WANT to rebuild the trans.
2 cases of guys I work with.
One was a 76 Grand Prix a friend bought that had under 50k miles and it was 20 years old. Trans was working fine but becasue of its age his mechanic talked him into do a fluid and filter service , nothing in the pan upon removal , the trans failed a week later .
2nd , late 80's BMW 5 series , +200k miles , trans was slipping a little. No history on the fluid ever being changed, he asked my opinion of changing it, I told him that either way he was going to have to rebuild it so go for it. He changed it , it slipped worse , changed it again after a week the car made it as far as his driveway about 10 miles from where we worked, next stop the junkyard.
If it is working fine I say if it ain't broke DO NOT BREAK IT.
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Re: urban mith
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08/03/08 10:44 PM
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I had a 98 Tahoe that I bought new and changed the fluid and filter the first time at around 50K. The trans started to slip slightly and I added some trans X and it stopped slipping. I put a total of 178K on it with the untouched trans, and used it to pull trailers quite often.
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Re: urban mith
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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08/04/08 07:59 AM
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I never had a car that changing fluid would magically fix problems inside it. If it's low to being with, okay, but if fluid level is right up, I've never found changing it to help on my cars. Not saying it's impossible, just saying I never lucked out that way.
same here.
and you can add me to the list of one who had changed fluids only to need a new rebuild severla months later. Its was almost like the clutch material in the fluid was somehow keeping the clutches happy. when I removed that material and put new fluid in, all heck broke loose
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Re: urban mith
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08/04/08 04:58 PM
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I never had a car that changing fluid would magically fix problems inside it. If it's low to being with, okay, but if fluid level is right up, I've never found changing it to help on my cars. Not saying it's impossible, just saying I never lucked out that way.
I don't think anyone is saying that they are expecting a fluid change is going to FIX a trans problem.
The point is that the manufacturers recommend that you change the trans fluid and filter at certain intervals and more often if you tow a trailer.
The problem is when following these recommendations it seems to often create problems.
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Re: urban mith
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08/04/08 07:23 PM
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I never had a car that changing fluid would magically fix problems inside it. If it's low to being with, okay, but if fluid level is right up, I've never found changing it to help on my cars. Not saying it's impossible, just saying I never lucked out that way.
same here.
and you can add me to the list of one who had changed fluids only to need a new rebuild severla months later. Its was almost like the clutch material in the fluid was somehow keeping the clutches happy. when I removed that material and put new fluid in, all heck broke loose
Its the fluid that does it , ATF has alot of detergent like additives and putting in fresh fluid cleans out the build up and thats what causes the problems .
If one changes the fluid on scheduled intervals a trans should live a long and happy life
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Re: urban mith
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08/05/08 12:19 AM
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Did a flush and fill once on my van. 2-4 days later the front seal blew.
I have heard of people changing the filter and pouring the old fluid back in. That was on an old high mileage tranny.
"The only thing to do for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
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Re: urban mith
[Re: Joshs68]
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08/05/08 04:45 AM
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how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop? the world may never know. here is the problem. old transmission. high mileage. if it breaks shortly after you changed the fluid/filter, how do you know that it would have NOT broke if you did NOT change the fluid/filter? if you have a 150K mile engine, and you change the oil, then it blows up 500 miles later...did that last oil change break your engine, or the 150K miles that were on it before you changed the oil? 
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Re: urban mith
[Re: Joshs68]
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08/05/08 07:57 AM
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If it's been working for 23 years and it still is why mess with it? keep going till it breaks then just rebuild the whole thing.
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