Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? #961641
03/29/11 01:30 PM
03/29/11 01:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,285
West Coast, USA
jbc426 Offline OP
master
jbc426  Offline OP
master

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,285
West Coast, USA
I dread the prospect of once again pulling the engine from my car, but I may have to, because I can't install RB road race pan w/ engine in car. The scattershield is in the way and blocking the install of my oil pan and I have some motor mount issues I need to address.

I have always dropped the engine in from the top in the past, but am seriously thinking of trying the other technique of removing the engine trans from the bottom by removing the K-member etc.

A couple of questions for those so experienced in doing it this way. The car is an e-body. What do you attach the engine hoist to to lift the car up? Must the front bumber come off or is there somewhere else to attach the hoist? What are you using for the k-member dolly?


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: jbc426] #961642
03/29/11 01:44 PM
03/29/11 01:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 28,312
Cincinnati, Ohio
Challenger 1 Offline
Too Many Posts
Challenger 1  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 28,312
Cincinnati, Ohio




Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: jbc426] #961643
03/29/11 01:54 PM
03/29/11 01:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 15,134
Kelowna, B.C. Canada
D
DPelletier Offline
I Live Here
DPelletier  Offline
I Live Here
D

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 15,134
Kelowna, B.C. Canada
engine hoist attached to angle iron bolted to factory bumper mount locations;



Engine/tranny/suspension on HD dolly;



Dave


1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]
Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: jbc426] #961644
03/29/11 01:54 PM
03/29/11 01:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 27,347
Today? Who Knows?
1_WILD_RT Offline
Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT  Offline
Management Trainee

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 27,347
Today? Who Knows?
Last time I used a engine hoist to lift the car I put a length of 2x2 .120 wall tube across the frame rails & used a chain bolted to that to lift... slide it all the way up to the area occupied by the radiator....

The tube is inside the engine compartment so nothing needs to be removed... Bumper & grill stay where they are...

I have a steel dolly that I use to roll the engine/trans/K/suspension under the car..... BTW if you break the lower ball joints you won't have to bleed the brakes...

And if you don't want to have to re-align the front end be aware the K member can shift ever so slightly, either make some marks so you can be sure it went back where it belongs or the truly accurate method is before anything comes apart drill a couple small alignment holes through the K & into the frame... That way when you put it back together you slip a couple alignment pins in the holes & tighten it up...


"The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."
Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #961645
03/29/11 02:19 PM
03/29/11 02:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 28,312
Cincinnati, Ohio
Challenger 1 Offline
Too Many Posts
Challenger 1  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 28,312
Cincinnati, Ohio
Quote:

Last time I used a engine hoist to lift the car I put a length of 2x2 .120 wall tube across the frame rails & used a chain bolted to that to lift... slide it all the way up to the area occupied by the radiator....

The tube is inside the engine compartment so nothing needs to be removed... Bumper & grill stay where they are...

I have a steel dolly that I use to roll the engine/trans/K/suspension under the car..... BTW if you break the lower ball joints you won't have to bleed the brakes...

And if you don't want to have to re-align the front end be aware the K member can shift ever so slightly, either make some marks so you can be sure it went back where it belongs or the truly accurate method is before anything comes apart drill a couple small alignment holes through the K & into the frame... That way when you put it back together you slip a couple alignment pins in the holes & tighten it up...




Really good tips...

Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: Challenger 1] #961646
03/29/11 02:30 PM
03/29/11 02:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 27,347
Today? Who Knows?
1_WILD_RT Offline
Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT  Offline
Management Trainee

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 27,347
Today? Who Knows?
Challenger1 you've done it too, we all learn stuff.. And we share it..


"The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."
Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #961647
03/31/11 08:21 AM
03/31/11 08:21 AM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,285
West Coast, USA
jbc426 Offline OP
master
jbc426  Offline OP
master

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,285
West Coast, USA
Great responses! Thanks for the help.


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: jbc426] #961648
03/31/11 01:04 PM
03/31/11 01:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,163
NORTHERN VA
T
THESHAKERPROJECT Offline
super stock
THESHAKERPROJECT  Offline
super stock
T

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,163
NORTHERN VA
I used the US Cartool front dollies and replaced the wheels with a 6x6 bolted across the front and used a jack from the mid of the 6x6 to lift it up. Note the big jackstands just in case. This is NOT the safest way but another way to do it as I did not have a engin lift at the time.

6559897-016.JPG (42 downloads)
Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: THESHAKERPROJECT] #961649
03/31/11 04:17 PM
03/31/11 04:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,448
It's a dry heat
gtx6970 Offline
Too Many Posts
gtx6970  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,448
It's a dry heat
I will add, once you've done the install from the bottom, you'll never put it in from the top again

I have a 2 post lift and I must say it makes it so much easier on the back.

Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: gtx6970] #961650
03/31/11 05:39 PM
03/31/11 05:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 8,716
Baltimore/Denver
64Post Offline
master
64Post  Offline
master

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 8,716
Baltimore/Denver
Same principle with any body style:




Last edited by 64Post; 03/31/11 09:36 PM.
Re: RB out from the bottom of e-body, how to lift/ roll? [Re: jbc426] #961651
03/31/11 06:44 PM
03/31/11 06:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,873
Chicken coop
dustergirl340 Offline
Chicken Little
dustergirl340  Offline
Chicken Little

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,873
Chicken coop
We did one of the engine swaps in our Dart from the bottom. It was fine, but honestly we do so many engine rebuilds and swaps that it seems just as easy for them to come out the top, lol...







Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1