04 Durango Code P0138??
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03/23/11 05:15 PM
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Dean_Kuzluzski
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04 4.7 Durango
Code P0138? Voltage high?
O2 sensor, Bank 1, Sensor 2, lefthand side? Front or rear?
Is there 2 or 4 on these trucks?
R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
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Re: 04 Durango Code P0138??
[Re: Dean_Kuzluzski]
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03/23/11 06:09 PM
03/23/11 06:09 PM
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ZIPPY
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PO138 is for the left rear 02 per the service manual....
trying some attachments:
Rich H.
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Re: 04 Durango Code P0138??
[Re: Dean_Kuzluzski]
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03/23/11 06:13 PM
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ZIPPY
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For a complete wiring diagram Refer to Section 8W.
When Monitored: O2 Sensor Heater Temperature is greater than 496°C (925°F) and battery voltage greater than 10.99 volts.
Set Condition: The Oxygen Sensor voltage is above 3.99 volts for 30 seconds. One Trip Fault. Three good trips to turn off the MIL.
Possible Causes (K141) O2 1/2 SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO BATTERY VOLTAGE (K904) O2 DOWNSTREAM RETURN CIRCUIT SHORTED TO BATTERY VOLTAGE (K141) O2 1/2 SENSOR SIGNAL CIRCUIT OPEN (K904) O2 DOWNSTREAM RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN O2 SENSOR PCM
Always perform the Pre-Diagnostic Troubleshooting procedure before proceeding. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING).
Diagnostic Test 1. O2 SENSOR ABOVE 3.7 VOLTS
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NOTE: When only one O2 Sensor is shorted to voltage, the scan tool will display all O2 Sensor voltage readings at approximately 5.0 volts. When diagnosing this DTC, only diagnose the O2 Sensor that set the DTC.
Start the engine. Allow the engine to reach normal operating temperature. With a scan tool, read the 1/2 O2 Sensor voltage.
Is the voltage above 3.7 volts?
Yes Go To 2
No Refer to the INTERMITTENT CONDITION Diagnostic Procedure. Perform (NGC) POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.
2. (K141) O2 1/2 SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO BATTERY VOLTAGE
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Start the engine and allow the engine to idle. Disconnect the 1/2 O2 Sensor harness connector. Measure the voltage on the (K141) O2 Sensor 1/2 Signal circuit in the O2 Sensor harness connector.
NOTE: Measure the voltage in reference to ground, not the (K904) O2 Downstream Return circuit.
Is the voltage above 5.2 volts?
Yes Repair the short to battery voltage in the (K141) O2 Sensor 1/2 Signal circuit. Perform (NGC) POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.
No Go To 3
3. (K904) O2 DOWNSTREAM RETURN CIRCUIT SHORTED TO BATTERY VOLTAGE
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Turn the ignition off. Disconnect the C2 PCM harness connector. Ignition on, engine not running. Measure the voltage on the (K904) O2 Downstream Return circuit in the O2 Sensor harness connector.
Is there any voltage present?
Yes Repair the short to battery voltage in the (K904) O2 Downstream Return circuit. Perform (NGC) POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.
No Go To 4
4. O2 SENSOR
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Turn the ignition off. Connect the C2 PCM harness connector. Connect a jumper wire between the (K141) O2 1/2 Signal circuit and the (K904) O2 Downstream Return circuit in the 1/2 O2 Sensor harness connector. Ignition on, engine not running. With a scan tool, monitor the 1/2 O2 Sensor voltage.
Is the voltage between 2.3 and 2.7 volts with the jumper wire installed?
Yes Replace the O2 Sensor. Perform (NGC) POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.
No Go To 5 NOTE: Remove the jumper wire before continuing.
5. (K141) O2 1/2 SIGNAL CIRCUIT OPEN
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Turn the ignition off. Disconnect the C1 and C2 PCM harness connectors.
CAUTION: Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install Miller Special Tool #8815 to perform diagnosis.
Measure the resistance of the (K141) O2 1/2 Signal circuit from the O2 Sensor harness connector to the appropriate terminal of special tool #8815.
Is the resistance below 5.0 ohms?
Yes Go To 6
No Repair the open in the (K141) O2 1/2 Signal circuit. Perform (NGC) POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.
6. (K904) O2 DOWNSTREAM RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN
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Measure the resistance of the (K904) O2 Downstream Return circuit from the O2 Sensor harness connector to the appropriate terminal of special tool #8815.
Is the resistance below 5.0 ohms?
Yes Go To 7
No Repair the open in the (K904) O2 Downstream Return circuit. Perform (NGC) POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.
7. PCM
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NOTE: Before continuing, check the PCM harness connector terminals for corrosion, damage, or terminal push out. Repair as necessary.
Using the schematics as a guide, inspect the wire harness and connectors. Pay particular attention to all Power and Ground circuits.
Were there any problems found?
Yes Repair as necessary. Perform (NGC) POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.
No Replace and program the Powertrain Control Module per Service Information. Perform (NGC) POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 5.
Rich H.
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Re: 04 Durango Code P0138??
[Re: ZIPPY]
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03/24/11 08:42 AM
03/24/11 08:42 AM
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therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Zippy reading the flow chart made me laugh.Its funny that when we have to check something on new cars that we have to do all that stuff.Then people complain because you charge an hour to diag a problem.Most think that its our fault that it takes so long to really check something.Worst thing is thats a short diag compared to most stuff.Most people think all you do is hook up the machine and it tells you everything and fixes the problem.LOL Rocky
Last edited by therocks; 03/24/11 08:43 AM.
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Re: 04 Durango Code P0138??
[Re: therocks]
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03/24/11 09:57 AM
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Blown71X
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Quote:
Zippy reading the flow chart made me laugh.Its funny that when we have to check something on new cars that we have to do all that stuff.Then people complain because you charge an hour to diag a problem.Most think that its our fault that it takes so long to really check something.Worst thing is thats a short diag compared to most stuff.Most people think all you do is hook up the machine and it tells you everything and fixes the problem.LOL Rocky
And then you get the "(insert auto parts store name) will scan it for free"
Perfect, then take it to them and let them fix it !!!
Rick
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Re: 04 Durango Code P0138??
[Re: Blown71X]
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03/24/11 10:36 AM
03/24/11 10:36 AM
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therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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They think just scanning will fix everything.Ive seen people guess whats wrong and spend a fortune.I guess its cheaper to just toss parts than to have it diaged properly.Rocky
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