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Building a 413 for a pickup #952722
03/17/11 08:19 PM
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My father and I are building a 413 with a pushbutton 727 for his 58 dodge p/u. I am thinking daily driver with a little grunt. Heads are #406516-1, thinking about putting 440 valves in and hardened seats, nothing fancy. Either those with 9:5:1 comp., or Edelbrock with 10:3:1 comp., running 93 octane pump gas. Thinking about a simple four barrel and 600 edelbrock until we can do fuel injection. I have a mild 2200-2400 stall, 3:55 gears and possi., throw me some ideas!

Re: Building a 413 for a pickup [Re: Hotlumpy] #952723
03/17/11 10:30 PM
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Go a tad bigger in the carburetion department - 750 cfm, your choice of brand.



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Re: Building a 413 for a pickup [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #952724
03/17/11 11:41 PM
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The Edelbrock heads will breath better than the 516's. Including mods to the 516's and rebuild cost, the Edelbrock may be less expensive. I'd go edelbrock.

If its a fun truck, CR is about right. If you plan to work it - towing, heavy loads ect. - you might back off a little, say .3-.5 to help make sure you don't have detonation whey its hot and working hard.

Re: Building a 413 for a pickup [Re: Hotlumpy] #952725
03/17/11 11:55 PM
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daily driver with a little grunt. Heads are 516. Either those with 9:5:1 comp., or Edelbrock with 10:3:1 comp., Thinking about a simple four barrel and 600 edelbrock. throw me some ideas!


The diff in grunt between the 516's and eddys would b night and day. 516's need an experienced porter to get em right and wouldn't come close to the eddys plus all the $$$ that they would need. As said bigger carb and might consider a 440 (external dimentions would b the same for easy hookup of everything) and might consider stroking the 440 block up into the 500's and... I have yet to run across (or speak w) anyone who has built a killer who after the fact has regretted how powerful they built it and in fact just the opposite


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Re: Building a 413 for a pickup [Re: RapidRobert] #952726
03/17/11 11:57 PM
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Is this a GRUNT or HP moder ?

GRUNT ? .... put together a combo using the "goofy" 413 motorhome heads

Re: Building a 413 for a pickup [Re: dOoC] #952727
03/18/11 07:24 AM
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Although the 516's can be made to work, they'll never work as well as a set of eddies or even 452/906 iron heads. You might want to find an old Street dominator intake also, they work real nice along with a 750 carb. (I really liked my old 750 AFB on my first 440 in the truck) Try a set of 1-3/4" headers if you're running a low stall convertor, they'll give you better lowend grunt.
One nice thing about that 58' there's a ton of rooom under the hood. A set of B body headers will fit with a couple little adjustments to the frame. My 528 Hemi with a tunnelram fits real nice under the hood of my 60'.
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Re: Building a 413 for a pickup [Re: quickd100] #952728
03/18/11 01:06 PM
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Thanks for all the good advice, I think I will talk him into the eddy heads. It's a fun truck for him, he doesn't want too radical and the 413 is just for the unique value. We are running a four link, independant front and four wheel discs, so it should run and handle well. I really dig that '60 Dodge, very nice! My toy is a '68 Barracuda 10:6:1 stroker (.060 over 360, 420 cubes) with eddy heads, intake, holley 750 and a hughes .560 lift cam, 3,000 stall and 3.91 gears. Dad doesn't want such a radical ride after driving mine!







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