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Watching HP TV build a "alcohol" 383 SBC. How do they figure they have a 12.5 to 1 motor with a flat top piston and 64 cc heads????

The best I can come up with is 11.25?


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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if compression test is around 200 that could work


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It made 616 hp


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They claimed they have a 12.5 to 1 motor...by the calculators, no way they are close.

With the cam they "said" they are using, basically a pump gas motor

The dude stated something to the lines of "You get all of this compression (12.5) by using a flat top piston? Huh.....So I was waiting for a mid 50ish cc head, nope. He then stated a 64 cc chamber.

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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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It made 616 hp




Ya, I saw that. But it makes me how happy their dyno is?

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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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It made 616 hp




Ya, I saw that. But it makes me how happy their dyno is?




Is all that smoke coming out of the breather normal?

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Re: Horsepower TV Boo Boo [Re: Von] #943418
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It made 616 hp




Ya, I saw that. But it makes me how happy their dyno is?




Happy as they want,they stated the numbers,didn't show 'em


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[quote,didn't show 'em




Actually they did show them..well at least numbers on what appear to be a dyno read out.


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Watching HP TV build a "alcohol" 383 SBC. How do they figure they have a 12.5 to 1 motor with a flat top piston and 64 cc heads????

The best I can come up with is 11.25?




about right with zero deck...I know with that 64cc head and flattops its usualy 10.5,11-1...the same head with a small dome that the fuelies used were 11.5...

maybe their writer just made a mistake...no add libbing

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[maybe their writer just made a mistake...no add libbing




Maybe. But, the "big thing" was it being an alcohol motor. I dont think of a 11.25-11.50 comp motor with aluminum heads being an "alcohol" motor?


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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saw that, yea no way a flat top small chevy is 12.5:1 compression unless the head has chambers super small


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Didn't he say they were using a .015" head gasket ?

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Didn't he say they were using a .015" head gasket ?




Yes, he did, you would hope that the piston is close to .024 in the hole or they are nuts, IMO.

Even at zero deck with a .015 gasket you are still only at 11.8


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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closer to 10.88, 11-1

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Didn't he say they were using a .015" head gasket ?




Steel shim head gasket


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I agree running a zero deck piston with 0.015" head gasket and closed chamber heads is tight. But with these assumptions, I get 12.2 CR

3.75 stroke, 4.030" bore, 383 CID
zero deck
0.015" head gasket (3cc at 4" bore)
3 cc valve reliefs (small)
64 cc head

But if the piston is 0.010" down the hole, it is only 11.9

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From what I've heard its a wonder Joe didn't drink most of the alcohol before the dyno runs

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