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Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: ] #940061
03/01/11 04:31 PM
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So who do you complain to when the DD's kid runs into your race car?





Fisrt get some witnesses if they seen it occur
then if its a kid I would have him take me take to
his dad then if he didnt want to make good then call
in the cops..... but that $10 the NHRA wants wont change
a thing....................JMO

Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #940062
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My on the fee is ,that if they are using it to benefit everyone at the event, like insurance if someone hits your car that shouldnt be on 1 then I would not be opposed. But if its just to gain more $$$ for them then kiss my hynie, take it out of my entry!!


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Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: G-Money1320] #940063
03/01/11 05:16 PM
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Every penny adds up and at the end of each race or season just count the dollars it cost to belong to a "non-profit"organization.I understand it cost money to operate a large organization and if it's a private business then everyone should be compensated for their time and effort but most "non-profit" have successful people that volunteer their time to act as head administrators or sit on a board of directors for free or a nonimal token fee.All administrative cost should be for the workers the physically keep the wheels turning.If their paying the top people compensation similar to the private sector then they should not be a non-profit organization.If we have to pay fees for everything to an organization then they should be taxed and contribute to to our economic base like everyone else not using their exemption status to fill anyones personal pockets.If it is truly a non-profit organization all our contributations should be voluntary.In my eyes a true non-profit should be assigned to organizations like charities and health organizations.Churches,schools,hospitals and others are some of the biggest and richest businesses and should also pay their fair share,then maybe our economy might be in better shape.
I don't mind paying as long as we benifit from our dollars,but other than having tracks to race at I see no benifit.Everything at the track is about making money and that is great,so they should pay their share just like any of us.If I'am offbase here,please someone tell me why a sanctioned dragrace association should have a "non-profit" status?

Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: Bob_Coomer] #940064
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If $10 is going to break anyone who races at the tracks there in poor shape anyways....
But my thoughts also this might also cut down on the kids, and general idiots flying through the pits causing accidents, personal damage also.
I have had several close calls at my local tracks with kids riding out not looking people driving in the middle of the return roads or pits, not having enough brains to think hey... "I might not be the only person in the World out today"
I simply wish for stricter rules on pit bikes and drivers. This coming from someone who knows and have experienced first hand what a dummy can do at the track.




Ten bucks is WAY TO CHEAP to charge per year for for people to dump there kids for the day.

state min age restrictions and charge accordingly.
per event.

A good movie and jrs. busy for the afternoon?

At least $50 buck per event...

Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: B G Racing] #940065
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Every penny adds up and at the end of each race or season just count the dollars it cost to belong to a "non-profit"organization.I understand it cost money to operate a large organization and if it's a private business then everyone should be compensated for their time and effort but most "non-profit" have successful people that volunteer their time to act as head administrators or sit on a board of directors for free or a nonimal token fee.All administrative cost should be for the workers the physically keep the wheels turning.If their paying the top people compensation similar to the private sector then they should not be a non-profit organization.If we have to pay fees for everything to an organization then they should be taxed and contribute to to our economic base like everyone else not using their exemption status to fill anyones personal pockets.If it is truly a non-profit organization all our contributations should be voluntary.In my eyes a true non-profit should be assigned to organizations like charities and health organizations.Churches,schools,hospitals and others are some of the biggest and richest businesses and should also pay their fair share,then maybe our economy might be in better shape.
I don't mind paying as long as we benifit from our dollars,but other than having tracks to race at I see no benifit.Everything at the track is about making money and that is great,so they should pay their share just like any of us.If I'am offbase here,please someone tell me why a sanctioned dragrace association should have a "non-profit" status?




BG looks like you should send this to the IRS to help them in their investigation.

Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: ] #940066
03/01/11 11:53 PM
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Tom Compton makes over $700,000 a year. There are a lot of salaries within NHRA that we would envy, so maybe that's where the profit goes...
I don't have a pit bike, I just gimp around; but if I had the money, I'd bring in a couple of motorhomes and call them my Tech Center and my Hospitality Center, just to see the reaction I'd get from the track.

Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: dennismopar73] #940067
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i believe we have been required to have ins for some time
the problem has been kids on them flying up down everywhere people
getting hit and hurt on them , it is a liability, bad enough when
you see grown ups drinking and driving them, watched a guy at monster mopar get hit by a sp truck thought it was going to kill him , tore up front of the race truck , not paying attention
everyone sees the issue but will not police it themselfs , so they (nhra/ihra/??tracks) have to do what we dont ,


Yep, right on target. Seen it first hand at Columbus in 09. Pretty much out of control at the big events. Saw one race car get hit. It was like playing dodge ball just trying to get back to your pit area.


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i believe we have been required to have ins for some time
the problem has been kids on them flying up down everywhere people
getting hit and hurt on them , it is a liability, bad enough when
you see grown ups drinking and driving them, watched a guy at monster mopar get hit by a sp truck thought it was going to kill him , tore up front of the race truck , not paying attention
everyone sees the issue but will not police it themselfs , so they (nhra/ihra/??tracks) have to do what we dont ,


Yep, right on target. Seen it first hand at Columbus in 09. Pretty much out of control at the big events. Saw one race car get hit. It was like playing dodge ball just trying to get back to your pit area.




And what does charging $10 do to change that....
not a thing.... this is up to the people to correct
and if the people cant do it then the TRACK needs
to come down HARD on the people that SCREW UP...
like telling them DONT COME BACK.... but they dont
want to loose the money either(every car counts)... JMO

Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #940069
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Depends on the track, but some of the tracks I have been to, if track personel see a pit vehicle with no sticker, you park it, right then. Next time your out the gate.

As far as getting nearly run over by pit vehicles.....now I know there are some idiots on pit vehicles, but there seem to be far more idiots walking around in the way. These are pit "roads", this ain't the mall, the park, a car show, or anywhere else you go to take a leisurely stroll, or where pedestrians have the right of way. I am trying to get back to my trailer to make another round...STAY OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD and try watching what is going on around you.

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Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: Monte_Smith] #940070
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Depends on the track, but some of the tracks I have been to, if track personel see a pit vehicle with no sticker, you park it, right then. Next time your out the gate.

As far as getting nearly run over by pit vehicles.....now I know there are some idiots on pit vehicles, but there seem to be far more idiots walking around in the way. These are pit "roads", this ain't the mall, the park, a car show, or anywhere else you go to take a leisurely stroll, or where pedestrians have the right of way. I am trying to get back to my trailer to make another round...STAY OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD and try watching what is going on around you.

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I had a guy stick his heel(he was beebopping across the pit road on a long 45 degree crossing, I really don't know how his heel got under the front bumper ) under the front bumper of a S/G car I was racing at Pomona one year, what a dough head If it was up to me there would be no spectators allowed in the pits, especailly good looking females , unless they where with a car


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Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: Monte_Smith] #940071
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Depends on the track, but some of the tracks I have been to, if track personel see a pit vehicle with no sticker, you park it, right then. Next time your out the gate.

As far as getting nearly run over by pit vehicles.....now I know there are some idiots on pit vehicles, but there seem to be far more idiots walking around in the way. These are pit "roads", this ain't the mall, the park, a car show, or anywhere else you go to take a leisurely stroll, or where pedestrians have the right of way. I am trying to get back to my trailer to make another round...STAY OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD and try watching what is going on around you.

Monte

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I agree to a point,but those "idiots" walking around are called race fans and with out those "idiots" the tracks,venders and manufactures would suffer economically.The "idiots" bring "pure profit"to race venues and the boost the economy of the host communities.
Having attended many races,other than young kids being allow to act stupid on pit vehicles the most dangerous aspect is racers travaling through the pit areas at high speeds and sometimes not paying attention to people traffic.

Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: B G Racing] #940072
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Thats right BG spectators that this sport craves and does a piss poor job to get them their .

Damages to race cars ,pit vehicles are hard to recoup against another racer ,spectator ,etc on private property .
I believe racers should be more atentive we have a moving ,high HPs toys also .And some racers fly through the pits to hot lap or they WON,LOST that round.

Just as out on the road defensive driving their also .
I also report people all the time if I see them .
I could wreck my own stuff ,without their help .
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I race at Brainerd International and they have been charging $10 per pit vehicle for a couple years. Everyone pays and there is still pit vehicles flying all over all hours of the day / night but it better then not letting us have pit vehicles at all. If you have no sticker or you are doing something wrong they take it and you pay to get it back when you leave.


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Re: pit bike fee...More B.S. [Re: dragram440] #940074
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with Montie, idiots walking on the Pit Road needs to be stopped!!! If thats the only Race-Fans we can get then we don't need any Race-Fans(HARSH but TRUE).If they want to ramble around let them stay on the spectator side not in the pits.I also think the pit vehicles should only be allowed if you have a race car(and you are racing)would not mind everyone having to have their car # on them.BUT NO FEE charged for having them.
I also think its up to US RACERS To Help the tracks Police in the pits.There is more of us than just 2 or 3 and us Racers know whats right or wrong. If we see people doing wrong and say nothing we are just as Guilty as them.Racers lets be Men and take our tracks back,before it gets worse!!!


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i believe we have been required to have ins for some time
the problem has been kids on them flying up down everywhere people
getting hit and hurt on them , it is a liability, bad enough when
you see grown ups drinking and driving them, watched a guy at monster mopar get hit by a sp truck thought it was going to kill him , tore up front of the race truck , not paying attention
everyone sees the issue but will not police it themselfs , so they (nhra/ihra/??tracks) have to do what we dont ,


Yep, right on target. Seen it first hand at Columbus in 09. Pretty much out of control at the big events. Saw one race car get hit. It was like playing dodge ball just trying to get back to your pit area.




And what does charging $10 do to change that....
not a thing.... this is up to the people to correct
and if the people cant do it then the TRACK needs
to come down HARD on the people that SCREW UP...
like telling them DONT COME BACK.... but they dont
want to loose the money either(every car counts)... JMO



You're probably right on the $10 thing. Not sure what the answer is, but it is definitely a problem that needs to be addressed - by the track owners. I know my old home track in Il had a pit speed limit of 10mph, and they inforced it - and brought it up on the PA often during an event. Just seems that there are so many more running around than there ever used to be. It's almost becoming a prerequisite if you have an inclosed trailer.


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