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powerglide tranny in 3000lb car #933572
02/20/11 10:21 PM 02/20/11 10:21 PM
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what do u guys think of powerglides in a 3000lb street/strip beast?
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: fishy340] #933573
02/20/11 10:26 PM 02/20/11 10:26 PM
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I wouldnt.. The Torque flite will be quicker, and just run better overall on the street.
By the time you buy the adapter and get it in the car they are also more money.
If it was a 100% bracket car, maybe, but still slower than a 727. The glide has a place but IMO in cars that are moderately light in weight.
If the car weighed 2400lbs yes...
I mean what advantages does one expect with a glide driven on the street... zero all cons...

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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Bob_Coomer] #933574
02/20/11 10:33 PM 02/20/11 10:33 PM
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Eddy Miller is doing pretty good on the street with his glide. Kenny Ford at PTC said if i tried a 1.80 first gear glide i would never look back.

Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: fishy340] #933575
02/20/11 10:38 PM 02/20/11 10:38 PM
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hi andy the glide has a 1.76 or 1.82 first .it will hurt your 60 ft at the rentals.i could build you a nice 904 like i built for chuck,carl,uncle anthony.chucks car picked up a .10 over the 727. i put a 2.76 roller bg setup in it,i am going to put a better high clutch drum in it for his new crazy motor.that trans has held up fine he goes 9.40.later johnny.

Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Randy..] #933576
02/20/11 10:39 PM 02/20/11 10:39 PM
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Power adder motor like Eddies yes it will be fine.A n/a motor at 3,000 pounds it will kill the power.

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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: bdaz smblk] #933577
02/20/11 10:50 PM 02/20/11 10:50 PM
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yes it would kill the power
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: one bad fish] #933578
02/20/11 10:54 PM 02/20/11 10:54 PM
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thanks boys! john what about lower gear set in my 727?
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: fishy340] #933579
02/20/11 10:57 PM 02/20/11 10:57 PM
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Call John Cope at CRT...He can hook ya up!!

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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Randy..] #933580
02/20/11 11:13 PM 02/20/11 11:13 PM
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Eddy Miller is doing pretty good on the street with his glide. Kenny Ford at PTC said if i tried a 1.80 first gear glide i would never look back.



Good point
It be safe to say Eddie Miller is making 1000+ HP motor only, and then add the spray. Are you trying to say this would be a good comparison?
I have built and raced glide's behind Mopars. The car was light, and the engine was making 850-900HP also.
The stock glides are junk period.
To make one live it will need a thousand dollars worth of parts, which wouldnt include labor, or a gear set.
The stock 1.76 are plenty strong, dont let anyone tell ya diff. I ran a stock 1.76 gear set two seasons of 1 second flat 60ft in a 2300+lbs car.
basic parts needed...
-1.76 gear set minimal.. these are getting harder to find and will cost several hundred dollars unless you get lucky.
-Harden input shaft 300M minimal
-billet servo piston
-factory brittle high clutch drum/hub
-valve body
-rebuild kit
-pump modifications, and case modifications
I looked at a half dozen cases before I found one that wasnt cracked.
Look around the oil cooler ports for cracks, and also the servo piston bore.
I picked up used converter and adapter kit, and still cost me $2K all said and done..
You buying stuff twice if your switching over... Drive shafts, shifters, converters.
They are cheap to maintain, and if your starting from scratch it wont be so bad.
Just some thoughts on expenses.

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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: fishy340] #933581
02/20/11 11:25 PM 02/20/11 11:25 PM
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i can get a low gear set for a 727.it would be more expensive than the 904 stuff .uncle anthony hooks me up with the gear sets i think they are from harold. 727 stuff i would get from rick allison or john cope. i can do what ever you want.later johnny.
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Bob_Coomer] #933582
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I picked up when I went to a 1.80 low gear glide. This was over a bad a$$ 727 Pro Trans also. I lost some in 60', but got more than that back in the 1/8 mile. This was at 3040 lbs race weight. I was surprised since I always thought the golden number was under about 2800 lbs....it also made the car pretty deadly consistant.

On the low gear in the 727, I tried one and just be aware that only heavy cars will really appreciate the extra gear. I switched back to a standard gear and it calmed mine down enough to produce new bests.

Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Bob_Coomer] #933583
02/20/11 11:30 PM 02/20/11 11:30 PM
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I have run 727 then 400 and now a glide, I've gone as fast 8.40 at 159 1.22 60ft 3100lbs all horsepower. I think each car likes different things but my car likes the glide the best.
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: 408strokerdart] #933584
02/20/11 11:35 PM 02/20/11 11:35 PM
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right converter and gears, no problem
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: 440GTX] #933585
02/20/11 11:35 PM 02/20/11 11:35 PM
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I have run 727 then 400 and now a glide, I've gone as fast 8.40 at 159 1.22 60ft 3100lbs all horsepower. I think each car likes different things but my car likes the glide the best.



....pics please.

5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Quicktree] #933586
02/20/11 11:43 PM 02/20/11 11:43 PM
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right convertor and gears, no problem



This is correct.
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: 440GTX] #933587
02/20/11 11:53 PM 02/20/11 11:53 PM
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hi clinton was the dart more violent with the 400? a friend of mine ran a 400 in a vega put it on the bumper every pass he put a glide in it it tamed it down.did you ever run the car with chucks motor and a 400?i got back yesterday from mi i dropped the pso stuff off.when i was there 2 more motors showed up.they are busy. later johnny.
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: B1Johnny] #933588
02/21/11 12:00 AM 02/21/11 12:00 AM
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What up john yes the car was very violent with the 400 could not calm it down, the glide was night and day. glad your trip was good maybe we can ride out together to pick are stuff up, talk to you later.
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: 440GTX] #933589
02/21/11 12:05 AM 02/21/11 12:05 AM
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I ran a Glide in the Valaint. 3470lb race weight 1.28 60' best and it went 9.02 at 149. That was all motor 511" B1 set up on a 28x10.50 tire with 4.30 gear. The over 3000lbs and a glide is not a good choice is simply a myth...

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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Al_Alguire] #933590
02/21/11 12:08 AM 02/21/11 12:08 AM
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Quote:

I ran a Glide in the Valaint. 3470lb race weight 1.28 60' best and it went 9.02 at 149. That was all motor 511" B1 set up on a 28x10.50 tire with 4.30 gear. The over 3000lbs and a glide is not a good choice is simply a myth...



but I would stay clear of stock 1.82's

5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Eric] #933591
02/21/11 12:11 AM 02/21/11 12:11 AM
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No doubt there Eric. Mine was a stock geared 1.76 trans. It actually went in the Cuda as well until it met an untimely death....It owed me nothing as it had logged probably over 1000 passes on the gearset. But here is video of it's last launch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBhnjOrAgg

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