Posted By: fishy340
powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:21 AM
what do u guys think of powerglides in a 3000lb street/strip beast?
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:26 AM
I wouldnt.. The Torque flite will be quicker, and just run better overall on the street.
By the time you buy the adapter and get it in the car they are also more money.
If it was a 100% bracket car, maybe, but still slower than a 727. The glide has a place but IMO in cars that are moderately light in weight.
If the car weighed 2400lbs yes...
I mean what advantages does one expect with a glide driven on the street... zero all cons...
Posted By: Randy..
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:33 AM
Eddy Miller is doing pretty good on the street with his glide.
Kenny Ford at PTC said if i tried a 1.80 first gear glide i would never look back.
Posted By: B1Johnny
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:38 AM
hi andy the glide has a 1.76 or 1.82 first .it will hurt your 60 ft at the rentals.i could build you a nice 904 like i built for chuck,carl,uncle anthony.chucks car picked up a .10 over the 727. i put a 2.76 roller bg setup in it,i am going to put a better high clutch drum in it for his new crazy motor.that trans has held up fine he goes 9.40.later johnny.
Posted By: bdaz smblk
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:39 AM
Power adder motor like Eddies yes it will be fine.A n/a motor at 3,000 pounds it will kill the power.
Posted By: one bad fish
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:50 AM
yes it would kill the power
Posted By: fishy340
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:54 AM
thanks boys! john what about lower gear set in my 727?
Posted By: tboomer
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:57 AM
Call John Cope at CRT...He can hook ya up!!
Posted By: B1Johnny
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 03:25 AM
i can get a low gear set for a 727.it would be more expensive than the 904 stuff .uncle anthony hooks me up with the gear sets i think they are from harold. 727 stuff i would get from rick allison or john cope. i can do what ever you want.later johnny.
Posted By: 408strokerdart
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 03:28 AM
I picked up when I went to a 1.80 low gear glide. This was over a bad a$$ 727 Pro Trans also. I lost some in 60', but got more than that back in the 1/8 mile. This was at 3040 lbs race weight. I was surprised since I always thought the golden number was under about 2800 lbs....it also made the car pretty deadly consistant.
On the low gear in the 727, I tried one and just be aware that only heavy cars will really appreciate the extra gear. I switched back to a standard gear and it calmed mine down enough to produce new bests.
Posted By: 440GTX
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 03:30 AM
I have run 727 then 400 and now a glide, I've gone as fast 8.40 at 159 1.22 60ft 3100lbs all horsepower. I think each car likes different things but my car likes the glide the best.
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 03:35 AM
right converter and gears, no problem
Posted By: B1Johnny
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 03:53 AM
hi clinton was the dart more violent with the 400? a friend of mine ran a 400 in a vega put it on the bumper every pass he put a glide in it it tamed it down.did you ever run the car with chucks motor and a 400?i got back yesterday from mi i dropped the pso stuff off.when i was there 2 more motors showed up.they are busy. later johnny.
Posted By: 440GTX
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 04:00 AM
What up john yes the car was very violent with the 400 could not calm it down, the glide was night and day. glad your trip was good maybe we can ride out together to pick are stuff up, talk to you later.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 04:05 AM
I ran a Glide in the Valaint. 3470lb race weight 1.28 60' best and it went 9.02 at 149. That was all motor 511" B1 set up on a 28x10.50 tire with 4.30 gear. The over 3000lbs and a glide is not a good choice is simply a myth...
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 04:11 AM
No doubt there Eric. Mine was a stock geared 1.76 trans. It actually went in the Cuda as well until it met an untimely death....It owed me nothing as it had logged probably over 1000 passes on the gearset. But here is video of it's last launch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBhnjOrAgg
Posted By: Randy..
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 05:26 AM
Al that's one reason thinking of going with one myself, yours took a crap and did not try to remove your feet like a TF most likley would have.
Posted By: moparacer
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 05:54 AM
Wouldn't have anything else in a car that I bracket race. I run one in a 3100Lb BB Dart.
A car that is going to see street use however I don't think I would go with a glide.
Posted By: sixpakdodge
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 06:01 AM
Like others have said, the over 3000 lbs. and a Glide is a myth. My '64 Dodge is around 3300 and has had a 1.76 Glide in it for well over 15 years now. The trans was originally built by Jerry Taylor in Maryland and subsequently freshened by Carl Rossler. I run an ATI converter as well. The car has gone 9.94 @ 136 with a .060 440 and OOTB 440-1's.
Posted By: Dabee
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 02:54 PM
I just finished building one for my 3000 lb bracket car.
Posted By: Leon441
Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car - 02/21/11 03:23 PM
Just my opinion as everyone else is giving one but, I would like to include more than the weight of the car for making the better choice.
I would venture to say that most big blocks do not see huge improvements with a torqueflite. Small blocks with over 4" of stroke may not see much either. I am talking cars over 3,000 lbs. If your car is light your bannanas are not comparable with these potatoes.
You need to look at where your engine makes power. Narrow power bands will benefit from the gear ratio of a torqueflite. If your engine is torque limited in comparison to HP a powerglide is not going to be a good choice.
I have made no secret my nitrous combo really suffered in the short times with a glide after removing the 727 with stock gearing. But, the quarter mile picked up big time. Looking at acquisition prooved it was the limited holding power of the 9.5" torque converter that made the torqueflite slow on top. After big gear changes I found the short times with the glide. And everthing got JINGY. In hind site a high first gear, a tranny spacer, and a GM dept converter would have been even faster with the flite. So spend $2,000 extra on the torqueflite and it would have been faster than the Glide. I had about $2,500 in the torqueflite. $3,500 was spent just to build the glide. So a torqueflite for my combo would have been more expensive.
Most guys do not need aftermarket planets, in 727 no matter how heavy the car. Powerglides will break planets with tire shake. Never broke a planet when I ran a nitrous combo. With the NA engine torque is limited and tire shake happens.
Light bracket cars=powerglide best choice
Narrow power band engines=torqueflite
Limited torque high HP=torqueflite
Big power/Big torque=powerglide
You just have to consider weight, power, torque, and anything else like power adders. I would have no reason to say a powerglide is not for the street. And if you run a 727 figure $500 for a drum that will not blow up. Don't care what sprag, output shaft, or planet you have. Do not race a 727 without a billet Drum. And then just give the one finger salute to the guys who talk about loosing feet. You will have nothing to worry about.
Leon