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Billet Servos 727(update) WITH PICS #913037 01/24/11 08:04 PM 01/24/11 08:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central S Scamp408 OP master
Scamp408 OP master S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central	Is it worth putting them in? I have the kit from my brothers trans just thinking about doing it. Last edited by scamp408; 01/28/11 08:10 AM.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: Scamp408] #913038 01/24/11 08:09 PM 01/24/11 08:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ M maximum entropy master
maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	piece of mind if you're running high line pressure. i have billet in mine. the front servo seals better with the improved o ring arrangement also. for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: maximum entropy] #913039 01/24/11 08:16 PM 01/24/11 08:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOrk ! The village idiot's idiot
dOrk ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	x2 ... on a high-pressure application. But on a foot-brake(no trans brake) combo ....save your money.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: dOrk !] #913040 01/24/11 08:20 PM 01/24/11 08:20 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: x2 ... on a high-pressure application. But on a foot-brake(no trans brake) combo ....save your money. In the 518 its plastic so I went with billet alum

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #913041 01/24/11 08:25 PM 01/24/11 08:25 PM
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Scamp408 OP master S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central	I foot brake manual vb. I already have the parts (from brother)and while I had the car in the air I was thinking about doing it.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: Scamp408] #913042 01/24/11 08:29 PM 01/24/11 08:29 PM
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maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	manual vb, i'd do it. it'll just be a matter of time before it cracks the rear servo. for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: maximum entropy] #913043 01/24/11 08:34 PM 01/24/11 08:34 PM
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Scamp408 OP master S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central	I just grab the kit from the garage I have both frt and rear servos. The more I inspect it seems I am missing the seal on the low/rev one.I guess my brother lost that.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: Scamp408] #913044 01/24/11 10:35 PM 01/24/11 10:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC	My 2-cents: 1) If you have a low band apply valve body, the rear billet servo is a good idea as it can crack. Even without the billet rear servo, shimming the stock servo to be solid is helpful; just be careful putting it in reverse (go to idle). 2) The front servo from the pre-'71 trans is a better race part. So, putting an aftermarket pre-'71 style is a good upgrade. If you have a pre-'71, dual spring, non-load servo, it is fine.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: 440Jim] #913045 01/25/11 11:51 AM 01/25/11 11:51 AM
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turbobitt super stock T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct.	They are worth the expense for more than one reason. The aftermarket front servos uasually have an o-ring seal in the cover for the band actuation shaft. This helps minimize leaks due to old worn out covers and maintain direct clutch pressure. Obviously the strength is another benifit. Allan G. 1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy. 1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno. 1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: turbobitt] #913046 01/25/11 02:30 PM 01/25/11 02:30 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A. roadhazard master
roadhazard master Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A.	Don't mean to hijack the OP but what are the simptoms when you have a bad, cracked servo or the sealing rings go bad? I'm just not a trans guy

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: roadhazard] #913047 01/25/11 02:37 PM 01/25/11 02:37 PM
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maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	Quote: Don't mean to hijack the OP but what are the simptoms when you have a bad, cracked servo or the sealing rings go bad? I'm just not a trans guy ime, the low reverse servo cracks or breaks first, and you get delayed reverse engagement, or no reverse. intermediate servo failure would cause loss of second gear. when my rear servo cracked, i didn't wait for more problems, i replaced both servos. for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: maximum entropy] #913048 01/25/11 09:55 PM 01/25/11 09:55 PM
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Scamp408 OP master S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central	I would like to thank mrrandyj he took care of me on the seal.If you need billet servos give him a call he went out of his way for me and was very fast to help out.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: Scamp408] #913049 01/26/11 06:57 PM 01/26/11 06:57 PM
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Scamp408 OP master S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central	Good thing I decided to do this.I took the pan off today and was poking around and what did I come to find the steel spring holder was bent on the low/rev piston.If I left it I think it would blow out good news is the pan and filter look clean just the normal crud.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: Scamp408] #913050 01/26/11 07:25 PM 01/26/11 07:25 PM
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maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: Scamp408] #913051 01/26/11 08:45 PM 01/26/11 08:45 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 387 Montreal PQ, Canada 74_360_Cuda enthusiast
74_360_Cuda enthusiast Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 387 Montreal PQ, Canada	Quote: Good thing I decided to do this.I took the pan off today and was poking around and what did I come to find the steel spring holder was bent on the low/rev piston.If I left it I think it would blow out good news is the pan and filter look clean just the normal crud. If I am not mistaking I think my rear billet servo came with a HD retainer...

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: 74_360_Cuda] #913052 01/26/11 10:41 PM 01/26/11 10:41 PM
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moper I Live Here M Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,675 Columbia, CT	Randy's the best. Doesnt surprise me in the least. Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: dOrk !] #913053 01/26/11 11:46 PM 01/26/11 11:46 PM
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SV_MOPARS pro stock S Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,236 Fairview Tennessee	Quote: x2 ... on a high-pressure application. But on a foot-brake(no trans brake) combo ....save your money. you forgot traffic signature, i live my life here being held hostage by traffic, do yourself a favor where ever your at stay there, you are much better off! trust me.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: SV_MOPARS] #913054 01/27/11 08:29 PM 01/27/11 08:29 PM
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Scamp408 OP master S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central	Got it apart today and the retainer is all bent also the old servo piston has the spring installed and no spacer to make it solid.Befor i had the trans built I did a shift kit and installed the spacer i guess the trans shop changed it. What do you guys think why would you leave it in the stk configuration? 6442003-trans002.jpg (235 downloads) Last edited by scamp408; 01/28/11 08:08 AM.

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: Scamp408] #913055 01/28/11 08:10 AM 01/28/11 08:10 AM
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Scamp408 OP master S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central	Which spring should I use ? the one on the right is what came out and the left is the new one but it looks canted. 6442880-trans003.jpg (243 downloads)

Re: Billet Servos 727 [Re: Scamp408] #913056 01/28/11 11:54 AM 01/28/11 11:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,008 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,008 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Which spring should I use ? the one on the right is what came out and the left is the new one but it looks canted. Use the new one , the cant shouldn't be an issue as it is compressed when installed.

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