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When I was a SFI cert inspector I was told that it's the stiching that they worried about. The pushing and pulling on the belt's where they are mounted.

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Yeah Chally1 .... a double at choo ...and you do need ...

You might know a thing or two about Petroluem "Trading"(aka nothing-but-a-FLIPPER) .... but you don't-know-CHIT about the inner workings of the NHRA. And I do. Maybe not as much as KM ... but who can expect him to be direct and open about this situation ?

And you have run-your-mouth on LOTS of other topics .. just like this.

The problem with you here ....as I see it .....

You don't know .....and you DON'T KNOW .. that you don't know.

AKA ... you are totally CLUEless.

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Who cares what Tom Compton makes. He is the presdident of a major corporation.

Monte

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OH Monte ......NOW it is a major CORPORATION ? ...

And good ole Carl Olson .... when I was an associate and major sponsor I knew him well. And I bugged-him about bogus rules(and the lack of some legit ones) ... that are NOW instituted or changed.

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Just a thought..If there was no NHRA ...Were ya gonna race?

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The really nice IHRA track just east of Pittsburgh.

Seriously, do you think all of those track owners would shut down just because the NHRA went away?

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When I was a SFI cert inspector I was told that it's the stiching that they worried about. The pushing and pulling on the belt's where they are mounted.

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I will keep that in mind in April when I throw away this brand new set of belts that are still in the box next to my computer.

I finally had enough last year and did not renew my membership. Not sure if I ever will. I am very torn about it right now.

Some are so fed up with it all that they would rather eat a freshed baked stink pickle from a Labrador than run at an NHRA event. These are folks that have been racing since before I was born.

Every year more and more people are throwing up their hands and giving up. You shouldn't have to take out a second mortgage to bring your wife and 2.5 kids to the track for a weekend.

It doesn't have to be that way. People cant afford to continue with it and are choosing to spend what little money they have for "Fun" stuff elsewhere.

-Dave

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GO get-em P-burg MUDstain guy ..

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Just a thought..If there was no NHRA ...Were ya gonna race?

Where it all started in the first place...on the streets.

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Norwalk and other tracks survived many years under IHRA.Many of these tracks flipflop associations to who offers a better deal.Pittsburgh was NHRA for many years when it was Keystone and was a dump.Now IHRA and getting to be one of the nicest tracks around.Beaver Springs is also IHRA and a great race venue.To think that only NHRA provides a race venue is why they got most people by the balls.We need to change our way of thinking and maybe that will get NHRA's attention and change their way of doing business.As I said I'am all for safety but if I'am getting screwed,I want my moneys worth and fill good too.Hookers may cheat a little on their taxes but still pay something.If NHRA can justify that they are a Non-profit organization then great,then there's no problem,that someone has the right to question them is also great.Sometimes things are not the way they appear to be and that we can question them is what make this country(USA) so great also.

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At present, compensation is determined by a “personnel committee”, who are likely to be selected and paid by NHRA officials. Based on NHRA’s 2008 tax filings, two of the Association’s executives received compensation well beyond industry standards. Thomas Compton, the Association’s President and Board Member, received $771,632 in total compensation. Dallas Gardner, Chairman of the NHRA Board, received $319,073 for one single hour of work per week. Comparable data indicates that average total compensation paid to CEOs at the ten largest trade associations in the United States was $642,447 in 2006 for full-time positions.

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At present, compensation is determined by a “personnel committee”, who are likely to be selected and paid by NHRA officials. Based on NHRA’s 2008 tax filings, two of the Association’s executives received compensation well beyond industry standards. Thomas Compton, the Association’s President and Board Member, received $771,632 in total compensation. Dallas Gardner, Chairman of the NHRA Board, received $319,073 for one single hour of work per week. Comparable data indicates that average total compensation paid to CEOs at the ten largest trade associations in the United States was $642,447 in 2006 for full-time positions.

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Seems like a pretty good gig to me.............if any of you had the opportunity to have those positions & receive that compensation, you'd do it too. If you say you wouldn't, you're a liar!!

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Just because they can do it and get away with it dosen't make it right.If they earned it great,but to do it at the expense of someones' hard earned money like the envestment scams,improper banking and other illegal scams,then like those people they should be held accountable.If someone pays you big numbers with others money and you accept it you are just as guilty.That they are a non-proft organization the the money belongs to those who contribute and should be used for their benifit such as saftey and events no to line any few peoples pockets.Seem like we have a few more Bernie Madoffs but on a smaller scale.

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the IRS is the most corupt and lawless organization on earth,if they want em they will get em right or wrong.

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Most of the people that complain about the NHRA, have no legitimate beef, or even know why they are complaining. It is just that "blood in the water" mentality, that makes everyone want to pile on.

This seatbelt rule that you guys get so bent out of shape about, is NOT an NHRA rule. It is a rule set forth by the SFI foundation and NHRA chooses to recognize SFI as the governing body, concerning safety rules. Other orgs, such as the NTPA, IHBA, Nascar and many others also follow SFI guidelines.

Then, the contingency comments are just laughable. Unless you work for a company, that actually pays contingency, or have worked with a race org, then I can just about guarantee, that you have no clue how it works............but the comments like "the contingency sponsors pay off the NHRA, so that rules are changed and we have to continue to buy their products to race"......what?????? Somebody watches too many episodes of "Conspiracy Theory".

Whether you hate NHRA or not, to claim that the sport would be better off without them and hope for their demise, is VERY shortsighted...to put it mildly.

Monte

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Whether you hate NHRA or not, to claim that the sport would be better off without them and hope for their demise, is VERY shortsighted...to put it mildly.

Monte

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Exactly. It's easy to tell the real racers from the pretenders around here.

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Exactly. It's easy to tell the real racers from the pretenders around here.

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Okay, I got it: REAL racers LOVE the NHRA.

The truth is that the nhra has been converted from a membership organization to a sports marketing corporation. Members have no say in how things are run and a few top individuals laugh all the way to the bank. There is a better way.

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so eventually when they arent a "non profit" company, they'll raise the prices of everything, you think its bad now with all the complaining of certs and 2 year belt replacements, entry fees blah blah and all the stuff NOW... imagine when they have people to answer to.

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