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w-5 guys piston talk ! #907840
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i want a dome piston for my stoke stroke 360 what brand ???? what did did you use ?? pics ???

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: RAY1969CARS] #907841
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i want a dome piston for my stoke stroke 360 what brand ???? what did did you use ?? pics ???






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Ross 99628

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http://www.rosspistons.com/products/index.php#cid=7&acc_id=0&type_id=2&vehicle_id=39

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Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: 70AARcuda] #907842
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yes stock stoke i called ross at lunch they say thay wont work 1 the 99628s but i think with a lil milling they may ??? a custom set is like a 1000 !!! wow! the 99628s at muscle motors are 609.00 ??? what to do ?!

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: RAY1969CARS] #907843
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yes stock stoke i called ross at lunch they say thay wont work 1 the 99628s but i think with a lil milling they may ??? a custom set is like a 1000 !!! wow! the 99628s at muscle motors are 609.00 ??? what to do ?!




Check with Diamond I had them change the pin height
on my pistons($35) and had them open the intake valve
relief ($8) to fit my 2.08 intakes on my W-5s... so
for a added total of $43 I got what I needed

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #907844
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Check with Diamond I had them change the pin height
on my pistons($35) and had them open the intake valve
relief ($8) to fit my 2.08 intakes on my W-5s... so
for a added total of $43 I got what I needed





$8.00 dollars to open the intake valve reliefs on all 8 pistons? so 1.00 dollar a piece?


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Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: Performance Only] #907845
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how mush did you move the pin up ???

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: Performance Only] #907846
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Check with Diamond I had them change the pin height
on my pistons($35) and had them open the intake valve
relief ($8) to fit my 2.08 intakes on my W-5s... so
for a added total of $43 I got what I needed





$8.00 dollars to open the intake valve reliefs on all 8 pistons? so 1.00 dollar a piece?




That is correct

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: RAY1969CARS] #907847
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how mush did you move the pin up ???




I dont have the paper here in the house but its up
into the oil ring land

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #907848
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yes stock stoke i called ross at lunch they say thay wont work 1 the 99628s but i think with a lil milling they may ??? a custom set is like a 1000 !!! wow! the 99628s at muscle motors are 609.00 ??? what to do ?!




Check with Diamond I had them change the pin height
on my pistons($35) and had them open the intake valve
relief ($8) to fit my 2.08 intakes on my W-5s... so
for a added total of $43 I got what I needed





My last stroker sb had NO custom diamond pistons with no extra work for reliefing the valves on my 2.08 w5s

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: sshemi] #907849
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My W5's are small chamber heads cut .050 for a 47cc chamber. I used a flat top piston .011 out of the hole with a .038 head gasket, worked out to like 12.7 IIRC. I guess that doesn't really help you but you can get away with as little as .027 piston to head clearance. My engine has beed 7500 many times with no problems.


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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
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Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: Guitar Jones] #907850
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A 47cc chamber, .011 outa the hole flat top with a .038 gasket = 12.7 to 1 compression

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: emarine01] #907851
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A 47cc chamber, .011 outa the hole flat top with a .038 gasket = 12.7 to 1 compression




Yeah, I think there was about 7cc of valve relief, it's .020 over with a stock stroke. I think if you crunch the numbers that's what it comes out to.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: Guitar Jones] #907852
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Try the Kieth Black compression calc with the numbers you posted Not saying it couldnt be done but....

Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: emarine01] #907853
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I'm at work and can't get on hardly any sites or I would have crunched the numbers myself, why this site is allowed I don't know.

I think I used the formula in the NHRA rulebook when I figured it. Gasket bore of 4.08 I think. I'll have to check again to be sure.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: Guitar Jones] #907854
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Maybe it was 10 cc of valve relief, it's been 10 years since I built it so off the top of my head I don't remember exactly.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: Guitar Jones] #907855
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Are you sure about the small chamber w5s ? If they are like in the 60s range the math works

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Are you sure about the small chamber w5s ? If they are like in the 60s range the math works




Yeah I'm sure on that, they were like 55cc uncut and the head porter milled .050 off them to get 47cc.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Well I guess as long as it runs strong all is good PS.. race fuel is your friend

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Well I guess as long as it runs strong all is good PS.. race fuel is your friend




lol, yeah 112 is all I put in it.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: w-5 guys piston talk ! [Re: sshemi] #907859
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yes stock stoke i called ross at lunch they say thay wont work 1 the 99628s but i think with a lil milling they may ??? a custom set is like a 1000 !!! wow! the 99628s at muscle motors are 609.00 ??? what to do ?!




Check with Diamond I had them change the pin height
on my pistons($35) and had them open the intake valve
relief ($8) to fit my 2.08 intakes on my W-5s... so
for a added total of $43 I got what I needed





My last stroker sb had NO custom diamond pistons with no extra work for reliefing the valves on my 2.08 w5s




They showed a relief of 2.07 on the pistons I bought
and the guy even say it would be close so for a
couple of bucks I had them opened up
EDIT
it might have been 2.06 to clear a 2.05 valve

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Well I guess as long as it runs strong all is good PS.. race fuel is your friend




lol, yeah 112 is all I put in it.


how much does your car weigh?

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My flat top diamonds came up to w/13.8 compression 55cc head .040 quench

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My flat top diamonds came up to w/13.8 compression 55cc head .040 quench






was that a storker motor ???? how big of cam ?

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what head gasket did you use ?? an how did it hold up ??

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Well I guess as long as it runs strong all is good PS.. race fuel is your friend




lol, yeah 112 is all I put in it.


how much does your car weigh?




2600 with me in it, race ready.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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4" stroke 630 roller

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comittic's w/head studs 100pds torque never a problem

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