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I was talking to a machinist in the Tampa Bay area and he had three engines waiting on Oliver to fix the rods. He said the caps just fall off when the bolts are loosened. He said they used to be so tight that they were difficult to get off installed. It sounded like the dowels fit loose in the caps. These were for BB Cheebies. If the caps have any clearance, it seems like they will move around under load. Anyone else have this problem?

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Thats a sign of detonation, over revving or the piston hitting the head.

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well I will take my chances with Oliver rods over most of the junk out there.

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I'll be running them in my engine, which is a 1,500~hp build.

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dont post something like that, no way is it true .. tell your buddy to learn how to use a stretch gauge.. oliver is the best steel rod ..

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Oliver doesn't(or didn't several years back) recommend using a rod bolt stretch gauge to tighten thier rod bolts, they wanted you to use the torque plus so many degrees method I bought s set of their steel billet rods for a blown street Hemi project, some of the rod bolts where one length and some where another, .003 differences I called them and ask about that and they said no big deal, that happens all the time One of the rod caps wasn't machine correctly for the bearing tang, they did pay to have it overnighted Fed Ex back to them and then fed Ex overnighted it back to me I would have prefered that they caught that mistake at thier faciltity instead of letting it slip through thier quality(or lack of quality control) control My opinon is Carillos are better, Olivers are not the best steel rod, or aluminum rod company out there now or in the past 1 bad rod out of a set of 8 equals 12.5 % failure rate Not acceptable in my book

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I have never used them,but the people that i know that have used them
there rods have windowed a few blocks!...just telling it the way it is!

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dont post something like that, no way is it true .. tell your buddy to learn how to use a stretch gauge.. oliver is the best steel rod ..

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Oliver doesn't(or didn't several years back) recommend using a rod bolt stretch gauge to tighten thier rod bolts, they wanted you to use the torque plus so many degrees method I bought s set of their steel billet rods for a blown street Hemi project, some of the rod bolts where one length and some where another, .003 differences I called them and ask about that and they said no big deal, that happens all the time One of the rod caps wasn't machine correctly for the bearing tang, they did pay to have it overnighted Fed Ex back to them and then Fed Ex by overnight back to me for no charges I would have prefered that they caught that mistake at thier faciltity instead of letting it slip through thier quality(or lack of quality control) control My opinon is Carillos are better, Olivers are not the best steel rod, or aluminum rod company out there now or in the past 1 bad rod out of a set of 8 equals 12.5 % failure rate Not acceptable in my book

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its foot lbs then torque by yield ... but a good engine builder dosent just rely on that, they measure the bolts and check the stretch ...thats why oliver gives you a stretch spec, and log book is a good idea for freshing up the motor

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I did measure the rod bolts, that is how I found that the bolts where .003 differences in length I ended up calling ARP and ask them which method they preffered me to use on thier bolts( Those rods had ARP 2000 bolts)They said to stretch them to .0057 to .0063 That ended up using 63 to 65 ft.lbs on the shorter ones and 75 to 78 Ft. lbs on the longer ones For the price of the rods and that companys reputation I expected all the rod bolts to be out of the same batch, (same lengths, same heat treat batch and so on) wouldn't you I thought I was going to get perfectly machined rods on all surfaces, not one rod cap that wasn't maybe that is why some motors blow up with Oliver rods and some don't

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...In the past 15 years, we have used 2 sets of Olivers, 6 sets of Carillo and two sets of Lentz. We have never, never had a rod failure. Just be careful of used rods----remember, there is a reason they are used.

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dont post something like that, no way is it true .. tell your buddy to learn how to use a stretch gauge.. oliver is the best steel rod ..

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Oliver doesn't(or didn't several years back) recommend using a rod bolt stretch gauge to tighten thier rod bolts, they wanted you to use the torque plus so many degrees method I bought s set of their steel billet rods for a blown street Hemi project, some of the rod bolts where one length and some where another, .003 differences I called them and ask about that and they said no big deal, that happens all the time One of the rod caps wasn't machine correctly for the bearing tang, they did pay to have it overnighted Fed Ex back to them and then Fed Ex by overnight back to me for no charges I would have prefered that they caught that mistake at thier faciltity instead of letting it slip through thier quality(or lack of quality control) control My opinon is Carillos are better, Olivers are not the best steel rod, or aluminum rod company out there now or in the past 1 bad rod out of a set of 8 equals 12.5 % failure rate Not acceptable in my book

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its foot lbs then torque by yield ... but a good engine builder dosent just rely on that, they measure the bolts and check the stretch ...thats why oliver gives you a stretch spec, and log book is a good idea for freshing up the motor

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I did measure the rod bolts, that is how I found that the bolts where .003 differences in length I ended up calling ARP and ask them which method they preffered me to use on thier bolts( Those rods had ARP 2000 bolts)They said to stretch them to .0057 to .0063 That ended up using 63 to 65 ft.lbs on the shorter ones and 75 to 78 Ft. lbs on the longer ones For the price of the rods and that companys reputation I expected all the rod bolts to be out of the same batch, (same lengths, same heat treat batch and so on) wouldn't you I thought I was going to get perfectly machined rods on all surfaces, not one rod cap that wasn't maybe that is why some motors blow up with Oliver rods and some don't

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I have never used them,but the people that i know that have used them
there rods have windowed a few blocks!...just telling it the way it is!

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Oliver makes a good, moderate priced rod and is fine for a moderate HP SB---up to the 700HP range and 8500RPM. Over that, I would use either Carillo or Lentz. .
......better not let Nelson Racing Engines know about that. they run Oliver steel rods in there Twin Turbo 632 crate motors makeing 2200hp. just sayin.

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bottom line is that this is still the internet and your going to get all sorts of "opinions" and "thoughts". some from people that know what they're talking about and plenty more from people that not only don't know, but who have no first hand experience with the product.
as i said before, we've sold and used Oliver rods for many years now and i've yet to ever have a single issue, for whatever that's worth.

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Well Said!!

Kasey