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reverse flow cooling plates, #903337 01/13/11 04:08 AM 01/13/11 04:08 AM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 461 Hinterland SE Qld Aust S SG duster OP mopar
SG duster OP mopar S Joined: May 2009 Posts: 461 Hinterland SE Qld Aust	I see indy are advertising reverse flow cooling plates that use a chev elec water water pump, obvisously they cool the heads first,whos using one and do they work

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: SG duster] #903338 01/13/11 02:25 PM 01/13/11 02:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	We used one on the enginemasters entry and it allowed us to run a 12.2 compression ratio , using .035 quench , on 91 octane fuel with no detonation. The only issue is filling the system, you can have an air pocket , add a bleeder valve at the highest point on both heads and you shouldn't have a problem .

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: JohnRR] #903339 01/13/11 02:33 PM 01/13/11 02:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,938 Sonora CA Mopar_Rich top fuel
Mopar_Rich top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,938 Sonora CA	I've used the INDY plate, but I like the reverse cooling Meziere pump better. Higher flow, nothing GM and it has handled 1000 HP engines with no problem. Works great! But be aware that purging any reverse cooling system is difficult. Air get trapped at the back of the heads. I even have drilled small bleed holes in the head, and I installed a NPT plug later.

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: Mopar_Rich] #903340 01/13/11 02:43 PM 01/13/11 02:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	Quote: I've used the INDY plate, but I like the reverse cooling Meziere pump better. Higher flow, nothing GM and it has handled 1000 HP engines with no problem. Works great! But be aware that purging any reverse cooling system is difficult. Air get trapped at the back of the heads. I even have drilled small bleed holes in the head, and I installed a NPT plug later. Forgot about the Meziere pump , that would be the choice. indy plates wereall that was available at the time we used it .

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: Mopar_Rich] #903341 01/13/11 08:01 PM 01/13/11 08:01 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 461 Hinterland SE Qld Aust S SG duster OP mopar
SG duster OP mopar S Joined: May 2009 Posts: 461 Hinterland SE Qld Aust	exactly where did you drill? I did a quick search of Meziere's site, since Im using an engine plate this looks like the way to go rather than a indy plate & more gaskets

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: SG duster] #903342 01/13/11 08:08 PM 01/13/11 08:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,752 detroit area M moderncylinder top fuel
moderncylinder top fuel M Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,752 detroit area	i have two units in an industrial building, 3600 sq ft,,, the guy in the front uit has a laser,,, he made me some plates out of thin steel that look like the water pump gaskets but have round holes like the front of the block,, made the lower hole smaller to try to pressurize system by having a larger inlet that outlet in and out of the block,, i never have any issues with loosing prime when filling the radiator anymore. once in awhile i use to have to jack the car up as high as it went with the pump on,, or just keep squeezing the rad hoses

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: moderncylinder] #903343 01/13/11 09:30 PM 01/13/11 09:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport I Live Here
ProSport I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	I don't have reverse cooling but I always fill my cooling system with the Airlift 550000, works great everytime and no air pockets. 6416002-Airlift550000.jpg (302 downloads) 1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: ProSport] #903344 01/13/11 09:51 PM 01/13/11 09:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	ProSport, might be a little off subject but how does that airlift 555000 work. You put air into the system to get rid of the air? it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: rowin4] #903345 01/13/11 09:57 PM 01/13/11 09:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer master
Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Id say it pulls a vacuum, never had a problem with air pockets, as long as the radiator is above the water level in the block. But I have heard people having trouble though. [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: Bob_Coomer] #903346 01/13/11 10:52 PM 01/13/11 10:52 PM
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chryco super stock Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 866 Winnipeg ,Mb. CA.	I have the Indy / Mezziere set up and it works great on my 557" 12.5 :1 Hemi . On a hot (84deg) humid( 74%) day it saw the low side of 180 deg. As for the "bubble" , I just jack the car up so the "low " spot is gone. No problem ! Chryco 6416217-IMG_7693.1.jpg (735 downloads) Gas is fer washin' parts ....Alky`s fer drinkin' ...Nitro`s fer Racin'!

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: Mopar_Rich] #903347 01/14/11 02:24 AM 01/14/11 02:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,045 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,045 Oregon	I've used the Meziere reverse flow pump on a number of dyno engines without any issues. Another option is to use a remote water pump and then water manifolds that bolt to the front of the block. Here is a set of manifolds that I make for that purpose. 6416708-AR245jesel.jpg (617 downloads)

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: AndyF] #903348 01/14/11 01:58 PM 01/14/11 01:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 89 oregon ramcharger1964 member
ramcharger1964 member Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 89 oregon	Do you guys think a reverse flow pump would work for my setup??? Have a Diamondback 496,440-1's, crossram w 800 Eddy's, 12:1 comp, auto trans, pusher HHR fan and alum rad. I cant seem to keep it under 200 deg, and often it sees 210.......... Hell B!tch Racing Co.

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: ramcharger1964] #903349 01/15/11 01:59 AM 01/15/11 01:59 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,214 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,214 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Do you guys think a reverse flow pump would work for my setup??? Have a Diamondback 496,440-1's, crossram w 800 Eddy's, 12:1 comp, auto trans, pusher HHR fan and alum rad. I cant seem to keep it under 200 deg, and often it sees 210.......... 210F won't hurt the motor, it does make the owner/builders worry a lot though Are you using straight water or antifreeze mixed with water? Straight water with water wetter does run a little cooler than 20% antifreeze and water, noticeably()SP?) cooler than a 50% water antifreeze mix What pressure cap are you using also? Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: reverse flow cooling plates, [Re: Cab_Burge] #903350 01/17/11 05:27 PM 01/17/11 05:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 89 oregon ramcharger1964 member
ramcharger1964 member Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 89 oregon	Thanks Cab. Not sure on the cap temp but I am using water wetter with straight water. At the track or on the street is usually keeps below 200 - but when I drive it home I have to go up a 2 mile gravel road(verrrry slowly) and thats when it get up to 210 and wants to start detonating.... Also - I have heard people say that you should NOT run a shroud with a pusher fan??? Is this true? Hell B!tch Racing Co.

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