Re: K MEMBER
[Re: StrokedW7]
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01/06/11 06:26 PM
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Lee
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Tory... Will you please get off the internet and finish putting the Lenco in my Valiant? These internet jockies will never get it. This is the exact reason so many people stop posting on this site. So many people will start out their post with... "I think" or "IMO". Unless your educated on the subject - most people do not care what you think or what your opinion is. BTW - Congrats on getting your car done. Looks good. Hopefully when I come down to get my car, I can see it in action.
Ya Tory.....Quite trying to help peolpe who work on their own car. These internet jockies will never get it! (Most who would be able to put a trans in their car by THEMSELVES!) I perfer to work on my own car and have a problem and am asking for info on MOPARTS, Isn't that what MOPARTS is for?
Lee
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: Lee]
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01/06/11 11:03 PM
01/06/11 11:03 PM
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I'm Lee
I have a Duster with an LRT K frame, been on the car since 2005. Have been working with LRT to get rid of the brake shake. Have tried several different things with limited sucess. The car gets raced alot, almost 200 passes last year. Was just asking what other guys did to eliminate the brake shake. I would like to keep the torsion bars, thats why I am trying to fix the LRT K-frame instead of buying another one.
Lee
Hey Lee, did you ever get an answer to your brake shake question? Email me, maybe I can help?
Tory
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: DemonDust]
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09/09/12 09:52 AM
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HemiDenny doesn't finish weld these; he designs and tacks them. All finish welding is done by one of the two guys at Streitech HAWK chassis who build national winning USAC midget chassis and sprint cars. Some of the best names in the business are wheeling their iron. Mike Streicher was the 1991 USAC National Midget Champion - the year after Jeff Gordon was. Maybe I better rush right over there and tell them what you think of their welding. http://www.theracedepot.com/product7.htm
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: Low Deck]
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09/09/12 06:13 PM
09/09/12 06:13 PM
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HemiDenny doesn't finish weld these; he designs and tacks them.
All finish welding is done by one of the two guys at Streitech HAWK chassis who build national winning USAC midget chassis and sprint cars. Some of the best names in the business are wheeling their iron.
Mike Streicher was the 1991 USAC National Midget Champion - the year after Jeff Gordon was.
Maybe I better rush right over there and tell them what you think of their welding.
http://www.theracedepot.com/product7.htm
You go right ahead and tell them. When undercut is so bad you can see it in a picture there is a problem.
I've welded on lots of jobs including nuclear facilities and those welds wouldn't pass a visual test from 5 feet away.
I've seen some amazing race cars and let me tell you, some of the welds I've seen are pretty rough. And once again I say will they fail??? Probably not, but it's the principal.
I'll tell you right now, if I bought a K-frame that showed up on my doorstep looking like that it'd be sent right back and there would be a lot of azz jacking going on.
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: Low Deck]
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09/09/12 10:34 PM
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I think that you may be jumping to conclusions here. That's not burn through and shrinkage. These pieces are all slotted and tabbed and what you're seeing are the welds on the tabs where they come through from the other side. Oh, and the Streichtech welders are also instructors by night at UNOH (Lima, OH).
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: Lee]
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09/10/12 02:28 AM
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I'm Lee
I have a Duster with an LRT K frame, been on the car since 2005. Have been working with LRT to get rid of the brake shake. Have tried several different things with limited sucess. The car gets raced alot, almost 200 passes last year. Was just asking what other guys did to eliminate the brake shake. I would like to keep the torsion bars, thats why I am trying to fix the LRT K-frame instead of buying another one.
Lee
Lee whats the back spacing on your wheels... I dont know your front end but from testing and my own work I have seen that if the wheel/tire centerline is out past the centerline of the ball joint the braking causes flex... the farther out it is the greater leverage arm it has... it only shows up under braking but once it starts it gets bad and it tears up parts
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/10/12 11:26 AM
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Lee
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Lee whats the back spacing on your wheels... I dont know your front end but from testing and my own work I have seen that if the wheel/tire centerline is out past the centerline of the ball joint the braking causes flex... the farther out it is the greater leverage arm it has... it only shows up under braking but once it starts it gets bad and it tears up parts
Hi Mike
My wheels have 2.25 inch back spacing. If you are talking about scrub angle, we have tried several different thing to help the scrub angle and it seemed to have little effect. Rob from LRT and I have been working on the brake shake problem on my car. We have fixed it. No more brake shake. I have raced my car all summer with no brake shake. We changed a couple things and eliminated the brake shake. We are now trying to get it to brake shake to find out exactly what fixed it. Sort of a A-B-A test. We have a pretty good idea, but want to be sure. We also fixed the tires toeing in when backing up problem. I just got a set of wheels with the other back spacing to try to see if that has any effect.
Lee
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: Lee]
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09/10/12 12:34 PM
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Lee whats the back spacing on your wheels... I dont know your front end but from testing and my own work I have seen that if the wheel/tire centerline is out past the centerline of the ball joint the braking causes flex... the farther out it is the greater leverage arm it has... it only shows up under braking but once it starts it gets bad and it tears up parts
Hi Mike
My wheels have 2.25 inch back spacing. If you are talking about scrub angle, we have tried several different thing to help the scrub angle and it seemed to have little effect. Rob from LRT and I have been working on the brake shake problem on my car. We have fixed it. No more brake shake. I have raced my car all summer with no brake shake. We changed a couple things and eliminated the brake shake. We are now trying to get it to brake shake to find out exactly what fixed it. Sort of a A-B-A test. We have a pretty good idea, but want to be sure. We also fixed the tires toeing in when backing up problem. I just got a set of wheels with the other back spacing to try to see if that has any effect.
Lee
What corrected the toe in problem when backing up? We are having the same issue with ours.
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: DemonDust]
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09/10/12 02:10 PM
09/10/12 02:10 PM
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So it's wrong for me to expect a quality product when I'm spending 3k and up for a front suspension system?
Sorry, if I wanted shi++y welds I'd buy shi+ from China. I guess that's why I built my own front suspension. I know I have no undercut and burn thru all over the place. You should be able to see the HAZ but should not see the metal start to shrink.
I hope this does get back to them. It will drive them to put out a quality product. This may be an amazing product, but with welds like that I wouldn't buy it.
Sounds like there are more than enough people lined up to purchase your product, especially since the welds are so much better. Id say that is a very good marketing ploy you have on your side. Id definitely like to see some of your work to critique.
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