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Re: K MEMBER [Re: kdhull] #888286
01/01/11 03:45 PM
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well I guess my standards are higher then most being I have been working in the aero space industry for more then 25 years

Re: K MEMBER [Re: W9 Dart] #888287
01/01/11 04:24 PM
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Just curious, how do you guys know that this product is not of quality? How do you know that this company didn't do adequate R&D? You don't right? I understand your loyalty to the company you purchased your product from, but don't talk out of line about another company you know nothing about.

Us as Mopar enthusiast should welcome options as we are always behind the times and production with it comes after market product options.

Jason




What is this company's name?

Re: K MEMBER [Re: Sixpak] #888288
01/01/11 05:00 PM
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If I were in the market for such a K (any maker's K, for that matter...), I'd be asking the following questions...

What material is it made from and how was it welded?

Have the caster, camber and toe provisions been accounted for so as to make them adjustable within a range where they would suit their purpose?


Is this a drag-car only piece or can it withstand street duty?

Was any sort of software used when designing the piece to insure no weird toe changes, bump steer issues, detrimental caster/camber changes, ackerman issues, etc? Have these values been plotted thru the range of suspension travel and are they available for the buyer to see?

What aftermarket /non-stock pieces are required to complete the suspension?

What modifications to the stock frame rails, etc. are needed to install the piece?




Many of these questions have been unanswered as well.

Cro-moly tubing? Dom ? or you using pipe from Lowe's?

Re: K MEMBER [Re: W9 Dart] #888289
01/01/11 05:25 PM
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again


PLEASE put a cotter pin in that lower joint!

Re: K MEMBER [Re: theman440] #888290
01/01/11 05:41 PM
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saw that also

Re: K MEMBER [Re: wicked] #888291
01/01/11 05:44 PM
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Not to be a ____ but besides the no cotterpin I hate it when people use aluminum fitting's on brakes systems. Can we change them to steel please.




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Re: K MEMBER [Re: bigtimeauto] #888292
01/01/11 05:59 PM
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Is that steering arm machined with the correct taper for the ball joint? just asking.

Re: K MEMBER [Re: wicked] #888293
01/02/11 01:57 AM
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I got an idea.With all the experts on here in welding,structual engineering and all around know it all's.Why is there only a hand full of frontend kits out there.
Because most can't change the plugs in there car but can tell you all about it on the computer.

I have no dog in this fight but you guys are A$$hole's.PM the guy with you thoughts and or ideas.
Or better build something to prove you know WTH your talking about.

Flame on I could care less what the Mayor's have to say,
Thanks Lenny

Re: K MEMBER [Re: 8secDart] #888294
01/02/11 03:09 AM
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I got an idea.With all the experts on here in welding,structual engineering and all around know it all's.Why is there only a hand full of frontend kits out there.
Because most can't change the plugs in there car but can tell you all about it on the computer.

I have no dog in this fight but you guys are A$$hole's.PM the guy with you thoughts and or ideas.
Or better build something to prove you know WTH your talking about.

Flame on I could care less what the Mayor's have to say,
Thanks Lenny





Re: K MEMBER [Re: 8secDart] #888295
01/02/11 03:34 AM
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I got an idea.With all the experts on here in welding,structual engineering and all around know it all's.Why is there only a hand full of frontend kits out there.
Because most can't change the plugs in there car but can tell you all about it on the computer.

I have no dog in this fight but you guys are A$$hole's.PM the guy with you thoughts and or ideas.
Or better build something to prove you know WTH your talking about.

Flame on I could care less what the Mayor's have to say,
Thanks Lenny




couldn't agree more. everyone on here cries about how expensive aftermarket parts are but when someone comes out with something new they want to bash away. supply and demand dictate prices. high demand, low supply = higher prices

Re: K MEMBER [Re: 8secDart] #888296
01/02/11 03:35 AM
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I got an idea.With all the experts on here in welding,structual engineering and all around know it all's.Why is there only a hand full of frontend kits out there.
Because most can't change the plugs in there car but can tell you all about it on the computer.

I have no dog in this fight but you guys are A$$hole's.PM the guy with you thoughts and or ideas.
Or better build something to prove you know WTH your talking about.

Flame on I could care less what the Mayor's have to say,
Thanks Lenny




I was just stating facts that I could see in the sub par pics. I never said they were poor welds. As per AWS specs D1.1(which doesn't apply to steel under .125 thick) required weld size is 90% of the thickness of the thinnest mating material. I'm pretty sure he's got that. I was simply correcting the guy that said the welds were undercut.

By the way I can change my own plugs thank you


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: W9 Dart] #888297
01/02/11 03:44 AM
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I got an idea.With all the experts on here in welding,structual engineering and all around know it all's.Why is there only a hand full of frontend kits out there.
Because most can't change the plugs in there car but can tell you all about it on the computer.

I have no dog in this fight but you guys are A$$hole's.PM the guy with you thoughts and or ideas.
Or better build something to prove you know WTH your talking about.

Flame on I could care less what the Mayor's have to say,
Thanks Lenny











I got a idea!, If your going to post a thread.

Check out this K Frame!!!

How about Sticking around to respond to some inquiries about it.

Bob, ProFab didnt have a problem with it!

Most of the questions were legit, if you cant come answer any of them, then why would Anyone want to buy one of these K frames. Think about it!! mike

Re: K MEMBER [Re: TShell] #888298
01/02/11 03:47 AM
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Check out this K Member.





Can we really, !! You mean like just look at it or ask Questions too.

See what I mean, mike

Re: K MEMBER [Re: Sport440] #888299
01/02/11 08:21 AM
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someone had this thread on another site and it had the moparts link to it so I bumped it back up! wish I wouldnt have!

however someone mentioned about a video of bobs kmember in action... anyone got a link to that!


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: moparniac] #888300
01/02/11 10:25 AM
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Good Morning!!! First of all I didn't go anywhere, been here the whole time watching these threads and the nonsense being said. I'll address any questions you have, I'm not afraid, I wouldn't have put this on if I was.

I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel OR build a Chrysler front end! I simply took the after market technology on the Ford spindel & the after market GM spindel and applied it to my build. Let's face it, we never hear the Ford/Chevy guys having any problems with shake and back-up issues....do we?? So I just took something that worked and applied it to what I was building. I thought this would all be common sense, but you know what they say about common sense...it's not so COMMON! When was the last time you opened a coil over shock/ladder bar, that read MOPAR ONLY...just saying. If you have an A.R.T catalog, there is a A-Arm Front End assembly in there, that I based mine on and found to be pretty simple. They got the ackerman right, so if they're wrong, I'm wrong.

And yes, I did put this on asking for questions/comments, didn't put it out to sell, maybe some of you are confused there. Maybe if I spent more time on these forums talking about building a K Member instead of doing it, I would understand all these threads. Guess that's where I'm different, the talkers will just talk and the do-er's will just DO!!!

Re: K MEMBER [Re: TShell] #888301
01/02/11 11:40 AM
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Working on pricing.




uh-huh

Re: K MEMBER [Re: TShell] #888302
01/02/11 11:42 AM
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This place is just like a high school you gotta hang out with the cool kids to fit. If not your gonna get flamed, and its so sad that its like that. Some post stuff not about racing and its moved some do it and it stay your not in that cool kid circle. I respect all and all there help on my crazy ??? But when it comes down to it if you don't follow the (as lenny put it mayors) you can't do this or that. Nobody is here to under mind bob,rms,aje,or any of the others this guy is just trying to make something a little less cost wise for those that would like it.those others didn't have a perfect k on the very first try.but everybody thinks or act as if the op should be diff. And be perfect 1s time out. Also its guys here that has build there own for there car and if post (I'm sure they did ) pic it was fine cause it wasn't for sell(or would be) for sell.and its ok to support moparts members but its more then 1. So now I guess its time for my before I get a started mike. By the way keep at it tshell

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Re: K MEMBER [Re: earthmover] #888303
01/02/11 01:07 PM
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If you make one for your own car great, the only person to be held liable is you, if you make one for some else's the only person that can be held liable, well, is still you. It has been asked if this is race only piece, but not answered. Several other questions have been asked about construction have not been answered as well. I believe I asked and (others as well) legitimate questions that anyone thinking about one of these, or any other unit would ask.

We're all A$$holes when it comes to money, if you want to be part of a consumer test bed have at it

Re: K MEMBER [Re: TShell] #888304
01/02/11 01:40 PM
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Good Morning!!! First of all I didn't go anywhere, been here the whole time watching these threads and the nonsense being said. I'll address any questions you have, I'm not afraid, I wouldn't have put this on if I was.


And yes, I did put this on asking for questions/comments, didn't put it out to sell, maybe some of you are confused there. Maybe if I spent more time on these forums talking about building a K Member instead of doing it, I would understand all these threads. Guess that's where I'm different, the talkers will just talk and the do-er's will just DO!!!




Ok that being said, there are a bunch of guys that are showing interest and asking questions. Yet you post the above post just BS'ing around the actual questions the guys are asking. Typical salesman.

You say you didn't put it out to sell???

Earlier you say the company is

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STR-Small Time Racing. Have this in my own personal car, went 9.60's at 140 mph.




And then you say this

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The K Member with rack is 27 pounds total, you use your stock spindels, keeping your own brake system. Working on pricing.





Sounds like you're looking to market this. If that's the case, there are a ton of questions guys are asking that you aren't answering. What is so hard about answering the questions? You say you're here watching the thread

I built my own K frame and learned alot on the way. I'd like to hear answers as well just to know and see how you arrived at your point. I've been 114 mph in the 660 with no issues. But I do have some small ackerman issues, but really doesn't bother me cause it's a drag car.

Oh by the way our 660 is on glare ice


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: TShell] #888305
01/02/11 02:31 PM
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And yes, I did put this on asking for questions/comments, didn't put it out to sell, maybe some of you are confused there. Maybe if I spent more time on these forums talking about building a K Member instead of doing it, I would understand all these threads. Guess that's where I'm different, the talkers will just talk and the do-er's will just DO!!!




You're absolutely right, those that do, "do", those that don't, buy other peoples products.

Most like to make informed decisions. Guess most people just different like that. Hard to do when you won't provide any infomation.

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