Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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well i can't afford them, but i think that these are some of the best out there. http://www.diamondbackengines.com/
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-1967 Plymouth Satellite #3555 446 cid on E-85 best 1/4 et 10.577 @ 127.58 best 1/8 et 6.722 @ 100.68 best 60ft. 1.419
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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old super stock -max wedge racer i think he is in flordia DAN DVORAK PHONE NUMBER ?
Dan Dvorak of Dvorak Machine in Waldo Florida. How many years did Dan hold the a/stock automatic record with a cross ram max wedge? 10 ?
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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I've been told my car will slow down .2 - .3 going to eddy's. Do you think that is true I'm currently in the high 10's
NOT TRUE AT ALL!
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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Holleys are a definite no for NSS unless you run 9.25 or quicker. Damon at Diamondback builds excellent carbs.
AA/NSS 65'Coronet "Whompin Wedge" Pop & Son Performance 557" B-1 power John Holt Chassis
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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Holleys are a definite no for NSS unless you run 9.25 or quicker. Damon at Diamondback builds excellent carbs.
Really???? I did not know that. So why would the Holleys be allowed if you run a faster time? Does not make sense to me
Russ
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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Because it then falls into the afx rule. I have never seen holleys make any more power when on a factory cross ram. You are limited to the power potential of the intake. I have modified edelbrocks for the crossram or original carbs in stock. Jake
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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Because it then falls into the afx rule. I have never seen holleys make any more power when on a factory cross ram. You are limited to the power potential of the intake. I have modified edelbrocks for the crossram or original carbs in stock. Jake
good man right here merry christmas jake.
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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Because it then falls into the afx rule. I have never seen holleys make any more power when on a factory cross ram. You are limited to the power potential of the intake. I have modified edelbrocks for the crossram or original carbs in stock. Jake
Could you get more HP using holleys with the Indy inline cross ram I know the manifold adds more but how about the carbs
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
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The Nostalgia Super Stock National Association and National Muscle Car Association uses these rules -
1.19 CARBURETOR CARBURETOR (NSS CLASSES): All entries in the eliminator must be carbureted as outlined below. Carburetors must be of type and design as originally produced for a specific vehicle. Positioning of carburetors from factory mounting not a tech item (carburetors may be positioned facing forwards, backwards, or side mounted). Choke plate, choke shaft, choke linkage, and choke mechanism may be removed; choke horn removal permitted. The following carburetor combinations are allowed, regardless of year/make/model of entry:
•Buick 400-455; Single Carter, AFB, Edelbrock Performer or Q-Jet, inline 2x4 with Carters, AFBs or Edelbrock Performers. Chevy 396,454 (F/X only): single 4 bbl with Carter AFB, Edelbrock Performer or Rochester. •Chevy 348-409; Inline 2x4, inline 3x2 with Rochesters or single 4bbl with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrock Performers or Rochesters. •Chevy 396-454; Single 4bbl with Rochester, Carter,AFB, Edelbrock Performers or Holley, Inline 2x4 with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrock Performers or Holleys, Inline 3x2 Holleys. •Chrysler Hemi; Inline 2x4 or single 4bbl intake with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrock Performers, Holleys; or cross-ram 2x4 intake with Holleys. •Chrysler Wedge; Inline or cross-ram 2x4 or single 4bbl intake with Carters, AFBs, or Edelbrock Performers. •Ford; Inline 2x4 intakes, inline 3x2, or single 4bbl with Holleys. •Pontiac; Inline 2x4 intakes or single 4bbl with Carters, AFBs, or Edelbrock Performers; or inline 3x2 with Rochesters. •AMX 390— Single Carter AFB or Edelbrock Performer, Cross ram 2x4 bbl intakes with Holleys. •Olds 400-455; 1x4 Q-Jet, inline with 3x2 Rochesters. CARBURETOR (F/X CLASSES): Vehicles in these classes permitted the use of carburetors listed for NSS, or Holley up to 850 cfm in size (no Dominators). Aerosol carburetor(s) prohibited.
Multiple Carburetion Preferred
Racers with current legal National Muscle Car Association and Monster Mopar Dave Duell Classic single 4-bbl carburetor/intake manifold/vehicle combinations are encouraged to change to multiple carburetion. Racers with combinations currently under construction are also encouraged to use multiple carburetion.
1.20 FUEL INJECTION FUEL INJECTION: Era-correct mechanical fuel injection permitted in F/X classes only.
1.21 INTAKE MANIFOLD INTAKE MANIFOLD: In general, common commercial market cast units are preferred and required if available. Sheet metal units allowed only in AAA, AA and A/FX classes and only after inspection by the rules committee. Top of manifold lid may be modified and fabricated as necessary to accommodate carburetor placement. -------------------------------- In general, there is no technical reason why a race car equipped with Holley carbs should necessarily be faster than one with Carter/Edelbrocks given identical engine/chassis/weight and so on.
Currently, there are some legal NSS cars with Indy intakes and Edelbrock carbs running in the 8's. In addition, there are many Indy/Carter or Edelbrock combinations which run in the 9's.
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Re: NSS cross ram carbs
[Re: sjs64polara]
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12/24/10 05:03 PM
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•Chrysler Hemi; Inline 2x4 or single 4bbl intake with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrock Performers, Holleys; or cross-ram 2x4 intake with Holleys.
I find it interesting that even though the very first Cross Ram equipped Hemis came from the factory with dual Carter AFBs, NSS does not allow them on a Cross Ram Hemi?
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