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340 combos??? #884048
12/19/10 09:18 PM
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Ok i have a 340 block and a set of stock J heads. I want to build a stout motor which will go in a challenger behind a 4 speed with a 3.23 gear. Whats a good HP build using iron J heads?

I looked in the archives i didnt see any proven SB combos. Thanks!

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: 440challenger] #884049
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Turn that 340 into a 416, I wish I did. I'm thinking 10 to 1, mid 500" lift solid cam, air gap,750 DP, nice set of 1 3/4" headers would run pretty good.

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: mini340hemi] #884050
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I'll give you mine but I have W2 heads. 30 over, 10 to 1, Racer Brown SSH25 cam, Mope dual intake w/ thermoquad. I have a 727 so I have to run a 3k conv. Also 4.10 gears. Pulled 400 on the dyno. The cam is small for what the heads can do so I may just bump up the rockers to 1.6s. No track time but it pulls the ole B body pretty good.

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: mini340hemi] #884051
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Re: 340 combos??? [Re: Mr340] #884052
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340, ported j's, BIG cam... consider a roller, 750 carb, that'll make it pretty good....for a 340. if you want real power tho, better make a 416.

i run a 340, 10.5:1 cr, 750 mighty demon, ported air gap, eddie heads, 285HEHL cam, and its good for low 12's. is it fast enough? no, not at all. respectable yes. but i always say, that if i knew what i know now, i woulda started with a BB, or stroked the 340.


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Re: 340 combos??? [Re: thedriver] #884053
12/19/10 11:36 PM
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4" crank, .020 over (4.060 ring pack is fairly inexpensive), 9.5:1 CR, 340 rods, dual-plane, TQ or 750 Holley or AVS, Engle 214/224 @ .050, .470/.504 lift @ 4* advanced, MP ignition, 1 3/4 headers. Balance it.
With that gear & weight, it'll pull strongly, idle nicely but with authority, and pull high-teens highway MPG. Did that build on a 406" 360 and I'd do it again.
Avoid the MP stroker kit cast pistons, they're actually for Chevy rods.

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: topside] #884054
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4" crank, .020 over (4.060 ring pack is fairly inexpensive), 9.5:1 CR, 340 rods, dual-plane, TQ or 750 Holley or AVS, Engle 214/224 @ .050, .470/.504 lift @ 4* advanced, MP ignition, 1 3/4 headers. Balance it.
With that gear & weight, it'll pull strongly, idle nicely but with authority, and pull high-teens highway MPG. Did that build on a 406" 360 and I'd do it again.
Avoid the MP stroker kit cast pistons, they're actually for Chevy rods.



Why the tiny cam?

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: ademon] #884055
12/20/10 02:35 PM
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Here' my 360 combo, and ymmv but here goes (340 whp / 350 wtq). 10.2:1 compression, out of the box edelbrock heads, holley 750 vs carb, air gap intake out of the box, hooker super comp 1 5/8" headers, crane hyd. retrofit roller cam 112 lsa, 108 installed, 230/238 @ .050, .528/.548 lift, crane gold roller rockers.

I used to run Iron J-heads ported out before these with slightly lower compression (10.07:1) on the same short block with 1 step down cam (222/230 @ .050, .509/.528 lift) and she put 305-310 at the wheels with that combo.

Good luck!

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: 440challenger] #884056
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Any chance of going with more gear? 3.55? 3.91?

If not, I'd say "go stroker" too. The big arm will help overcome that mild gearing. Small blocks need freedom to spin/rev. Big blocks are more forgiving, so make big cubes with the stroker.

Otherwise the 3.23's will limit cam, carb and port/runner volume.


R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
Re: 340 combos??? [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #884057
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Well with the 4speed i thought i would be able to pull the 3.23s. I have a 340 block 60 over already.Im thinking of going with the stroker. I heard theres no clearincing needed with the 4in crank and I beam rods. .60 over with stroker crank = 422. What do you guys think? will stock X or J heads work? I know an aftermarket or ported head will be better but i dont mind not being able to get the full potential out of the combo becuase it would end up saving me at least 1500$

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: 440challenger] #884058
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Ademon, the "tiny" cam was because of the stock converter, 3.21 gear, factory AC, and I already have a few other hotrods and a race car. It sounded much bigger than the specs, had perfect driveability, pulled good vacuum, and returned good MPG. I wasn't after something peaky and if you're familiar with Engle, they're very fast ramps. Personally, for a street car, I'm not into ill-mannered cam timing or "drive-in" posers.
I would also go with the minimum overbore needed to clean the cylinders up and use a "shelf" ring pack; thicker cylinder walls make more power, and are better for longevity & future freshenings, than the last .020 or .030 one can remove from the bores.

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: 440challenger] #884059
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STARTED WITH THE SAME THING AS YOU ENDED UP WITH A STROKED 416, PORTED J HEADS, MADE 495 HP AND 525 TRQ, RUNS 10.8 IN MY DUSTER!

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: DUSTERB'D] #884060
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I'm surprised the "340tool" hasn't chimed in yet


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Re: 340 combos??? [Re: 69L78Nova] #884061
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I'm surprised the "340tool" hasn't chimed in yet




I don't think he's here anymore .

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: justinp61] #884062
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I just got my motor built by Mike Liston at MRL Performance. 71 340 block redecked and bored .30 over, 416 stroker kit 10:5 comp., Voodoo Cam 60405, Edelbrock RPM performer Heads (Re ported),Hughs roller rockers 1/6 ratio, M-1 single plane ported intake,Bigs stage 5 750 carb, made 502 HP at 5650 RPM and 507 torque ft-lb at 4308 RPM on the dyno. Chassis Dyno results will come in the spring....

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Re: 340 combos??? [Re: fiddlerfingers] #884063
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I just got my motor built by Mike Liston at MRL Performance. 71 340 block redecked and bored .30 over, 416 stroker kit 10:5 comp., Voodoo Cam 60405, Edelbrock RPM performer Heads (Re ported),Hughs roller rockers, single plane ported intake,Bigs stage 5 750 carb, made 502 HP at 5650 RPM and 507 torque ft-lb at 4308 RPM on the dyno. Chassis Dyno results will come in the spring....




I'm building about the same 416 build with a smaller cam; the Comp XE274S solid. Full Ported E-brock heads, M1 Single Plane, Silver Claw 750, Comp rollers.

Hope to make 425HP ??

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Re: 340 combos??? [Re: autoxcuda] #884064
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Go with the stroker kit, cheapest horsepower you can get
Thad

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: olemopar] #884065
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Go with the stroker kit, cheapest horsepower you can get
Thad




My 408 thinks it's a big block .

Re: 340 combos??? [Re: 440challenger] #884066
12/23/10 03:49 PM
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Sell the 340 block to somebody that haaaaaaaaaaaaas to have it. If you want to stay SB get a roller (magnum)360 and have at it. Storked is nice but a .030 360 should have plenty of grunt.


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Re: 340 combos??? [Re: 440challenger] #884067
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I had a 73 Dart factory 340 car with the entire eddy heads intake carb and cam set up and that car ran very good and was very quick.!


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