E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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12/19/10 08:49 PM
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Ok Guys , I'm switching the car over to e85 over the winter and have a couple questions. I've already bought a QuickFuel conversion for the Dominator. 1) will I need to upgrade lines? I have 1/2" from the pump to regulator and -6 from regulator to carb. 2) will I need to change or completely remove the foam in the fuel cell? Not sure if e85 will cause foam to break down. Foam is about 2 years old. 3) do I need to replace the cellulose filter with something else? Thanks for any advise you can give and if you have any other info or tips I would like to hear them too! Randy
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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Randy I never had to change anything... I run the foam in the tank still, 1/2" line is fine but you might want to up the size to the carb, filter should be fine also EDIT You are aware there is summer and winter fuel right... use summer only
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
[Re: Dartin]
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well i to am going to switch to e 85 on alcohol now so the only thing i need is the carb change as for foam took mine out as alcohol made it deteriate as soon as fuel hit , despite what others and the manufacture say,, my cell(5 gal) is a jaz, new one. as for fuel line, 2 lines out of cell, to 2 fuel pumps ,mallory 140, sep switchs, to # 12 to small log with 2 sep holley race regs then 2 #8 to the carb now 750 ken jones warmed up carb
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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Randy I never had to change anything... I run the foam in the tank still, 1/2" line is fine but you might want to up the size to the carb, filter should be fine also EDIT You are aware there is summer and winter fuel right... use summer only
Thanks guys. Mike, what is the difference in the winter and summer blends. Would it hurt to put a couple gallons in just to start the car in the garage?
Randy
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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as to foam i automatical take it out friend of mine new 18 gallon jaz done the same as mine soon as gas hit you could see it flaking off little peices had one heck of time called jaz they knew nothing of this issue so did send them both my foam and my friends there reply was , 0 answer so i just take it out now
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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Randy, I believe the difference between summer/winter fuel is the percentage of ethanol. Winter fuel can be somewhere around 70% E instead of the 85% in summer. This is because the E is harder to burn and flows slower the colder it gets.
Correct... E85 in the cold weather wont fire... I dont fire mine under about 55*...if it goes cold at the track I have the heater on in the trailer to warm it up
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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12/19/10 09:24 PM
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Randy I never had to change anything... I run the foam in the tank still, 1/2" line is fine but you might want to up the size to the carb, filter should be fine also EDIT You are aware there is summer and winter fuel right... use summer only
Thanks guys. Mike, what is the difference in the winter and summer blends. Would it hurt to put a couple gallons in just to start the car in the garage?
Randy
Low Reid Vapor Presure Number = low volatility = low flash = hard starting. The blend that cures those problems, suck for your drag engine. Yes, you can start it up and tweak, but don't make passes on it.
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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12/20/10 05:20 AM
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3) do I need to replace the cellulose filter with something else?
Change out the cellulose fuel filter, the E85 will dissolve it !!!
/Tom
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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12/20/10 06:50 PM
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Is 14 to 1 CR going to be a problem with E85??
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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I think 14 to 1 is about the max you can run on E85. Someone here should know. Also, if you heat the fuel, it will flow faster and burn easier.
You can go higher than 15:1... I'm at 14.1:1 ... cam comes into play also when you get real high
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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Curious as to weather you guys use alc. needle and seats or does the vitan live w/E-85......
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Re: E85 Guys- looking for some tips
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Curious as to weather you guys use alc. needle and seats or does the vitan live w/E-85......
Viton works fine with it
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