Re: Welders or body men help plz.
[Re: 318Bruiser]
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07/14/08 12:00 AM
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1. Just work the metal. Gonna take some time 2. Yes, it will work. Ideally, a 220 wire feed with gas would be much better. At the very least, a 220 with flux-core wire. Even though it is only a thin body panel, a good welder will drastically improve the quality of the weld. If not, make do with what you have
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Re: Welders or body men help plz.
[Re: 318Bruiser]
#88254
07/14/08 12:11 AM
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Go to this site, sign-up and log-in to this site. http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/index.phpThere are some really detailed entries that explain panel repairs in detail. Very nice site for any type of metalworking issues.
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Re: Welders or body men help plz.
[Re: jbc426]
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07/14/08 12:37 AM
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A 110 machine will weld panels on the car. I would use a 220 machine myself. DO NOT use flux core wire to weld on panels. Get a 75/25 argon mix tank and solid core .023-.025 wire. Flux core is messy, burns hotter and you may never get all the flux out of your welds. If you are borrowing a welder use what you have available. If you are buying a welder, spend the cash on at least a 220V, 175-180 class machine. I wouldn't spend $50 of my own money on a 110V machine.
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Re: Welders or body men help plz.
[Re: FarDarter]
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07/14/08 09:12 PM
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Heres my 2 cents. I'm not a body guy by trade but have watched others and learned from trial and error. I've used a miller 110, I owa miller 250. Both will work. I use .023 wire not.030. Smaller wire welds with less burn thru. I set the heat up enough to burn thru if I run a bead. Let me explain. This way the weld heats and fuses quickly with a lower build up of weld bead. Weld your panel with a series of 1/8"-1/4" spots. Make tack welds 2" apart, then 1", then 1/2". Back and forth not all in a row. While they are cooling knock them down with your 3M disc. After grinding it will be easier to see if you have any pin holes when connecting the tack welds. Now go back(all your tacks are now 1/2" apart) and tack right next to your previous welds. Your tacks will now all be about a 1/2"long. Again don't go right down the patch,skip around. While they cool grind again. Repeat until the bead is solid. DO NOT atempt to weld long beads. Always leave a gap of .030-.060 between the patch and sorounding metal. A slow weld takes way less time than trying to fix a warped panel. All panels warp some,the trick is to minimize it. I'm sure pros can do it with no warpage, but we a not pros. However you can achive good results. As far as curving the metal. I bought a large 8" diameter piece of PVC. I shimmed it off my bench with a 1/8" shim and clamped each end with a C clamp. I slid the metal between the PVC and the bench and lifted it up to roll it. Heres a couple of pics of my 64 N/SS project for an Idea. Good luck. Oh Ya I have an F-Body also. Doug
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Re: Welders or body men help plz.
[Re: dvw]
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07/14/08 09:17 PM
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Re: Welders or body men help plz.
[Re: 318Bruiser]
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07/15/08 11:11 PM
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I wouldn't think twice about using a 110v mig. It is the quality of the machine that counts. I run a 110v Lincoln mig welder and I love how well I have been able to stitch together the Duster with it.
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