Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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I decided to make the switch from a snubber to the Calvert traction bars and single leaf springs on my 79 Cordoba. For anyone wanting to do this on a late B body, this is what you will have to do; For starters, I was running HD 3800 lb 5 leaf springs ( 22" front section ) with the front section clamped together plus a pinion snubber on my 9 1/4 axle. First problem you will run in to is the front spring eye bolt on the Calvert single leaf spring ( aluminum bushed ) is 5/8". Late B is 9/16" bolt. No big deal to drill out the front spring mount. Next problem is the ISO mounted spring system ( spring sandwithed in rubber isolators ). I originally tried to save the original ISO perches by strengthening them and resizing the spring locator hole to the 1/2" pin in the single leafs verses the 1 5/8" hole originally in them for the top rubber isolator. Don't bother, as you will find the diff to driveshaft angle to be about 11 degrees. I thought it would be close to my original set up ( 3.5 degrees), but it wasn't. I am attributing this change was caused by going from multi leaf to single leaf springs.?? At any rate, I ended up torching everything off and welding on a new set of spring perches from Calvert. BTW, they make the best I've seen. Next and last problem I ran in to was the lower spring clamp shock mounts. Earily B's had eyes on both ends of the shocks. Late B's use bayonet style mounts on the lowers. Make sure you specify or they will automatically send you the mounts for the earily B style shocks ( knee jerk reaction ). Weight savings = 32# - total. You have 3 choices of single leaf springs. Stock ride height, +1", -1". I opted for stock. Car sits 1/2" higher than old set up. It'll probably settle that much. Hope this helps anyone planning to make this switch. Won't be able to get out to the track again till after the holidays to see if there is any improvement.
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Re: Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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12/16/10 12:18 AM
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Calvert "CalTrac" system.
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Re: Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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12/16/10 12:27 AM
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just to let you know ,, friend of mine put set on 67 coronet it was a little more invovled than just abolt on deal as for any diffrence in 60 no ,, ran same 60 actually lost a bit !! over the super stocks,, he did build a bigger motor to and looser converter,still ran about the same as ss as for the 'tunabiltiy' of the bars yes it can be done but not easy,, have to have drivers weight in car to adjust very hard to do on the ground so for my oppinon never buy again what a waste for the monie just put ladder set up either float it or coil it !!
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Re: Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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Adjusting your Caltracs can be - interesting while the car is sitting on the ground. You will need a pair of 1 1/8" wrenches. Adjuster nut to ground clearance will be a problem - unless you have a spare 1 1/8" combo wernch. I obviously stole mine from a guy that owned a J.D. tractor ( green). Cut it in half and open up the box end and you are good to go!
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Re: Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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12/16/10 12:36 AM
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that is exactly what we did !! cut the wrench in 2 mine not green tho a ha
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Re: Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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caltracs bottem hole ,#7 rancho 9000 shocks
drivers side just touching ..... pass side two flats preload
1.49 60 ft
drivers side two more flats . pass side two more flats preload
1.42 60 ft
again two more flats preload both sides !!!
1.40 60 ft
29.5 - 10.5 15 mt slicks on a 10 inch rim 13 pounds air preasure
you need to tune them , they work
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Re: Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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well did that till 60 went away, stopped, went back other way till 60 stayed, and car did leave straight on the phone with caltracs no help there , the car has had alot of changes in past 3 years basical stock 440 running 8 3/4 stock springs 430 gears on gas to 12-0s to decent 440 moser complete dana w/456 with super stock springs, running 11-teens, now 474 with caltrac system complete on alcohol! started with 9 'somebody' convert to 2 diffrent 8" turbo actions converts so all we want to do now is run the car have a great time wheater we lose win draw have fun because if it aint fun its no fun time to do something else that is fun
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Re: Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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12/16/10 10:42 AM
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Looks good I am surprised they didnt give you the option of the B-body style lower plates. One of the big issues with the f m j ars is the extreme shock angle, using the B-body lower plates lets the shocks stay a bit more verticle. If youhave not braced you upper shock mount bar, get ready to and with the big tube shocks, keep an eye on it pinching your brake line. This is the calvert F M J -body kit with B-body lower plates.
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Re: Installing single leafs and CalTracs on a late "B"
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Back on the ground. Ended up with 2.5 degrees at the trans and 3.5 degrees ( down )at the diff. Calvert recommends, as a starting point, to use 2 flats ( 1/4 turn) of preload on the bars with the car loaded per race conditions.
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