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Is there a database for factory markings???
#881273
12/15/10 10:00 PM
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minnarusta
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I am wondering if someone collects info on factory markings? I just pressure washing the rear end on my 1971 Superbee and alot of them survived all this time. I would like to pass some pictures of the markings and stampings onto someone that can use the info for restorations. I will have some pics soon but I have to grab my camera from my house. So is there a place that collects this type of data???
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: TX9H6E4CUDA]
#881280
12/16/10 02:38 PM
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JohnRR
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well here they are sorry they are camera phone pics,
If one were to start a database crappy cellphone pictures wouldn't be the media of choice I would think.
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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12/16/10 03:16 PM
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Dave Watt
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The markings you found are really only 'correct' for your car. Not all cars were marked the same exact way. Some cars have more than others.
I am sure folks would like to see them just the same though.
Very true Barry. We know a guy who documented an all original T/A that my buddy owned. Next thing you know, there was a fully restored T/A running around that had identical markings to my buddy's all original car.
An assembly line worker would not have made the exact same looking mark on every single car.
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: TX9H6E4CUDA]
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12/21/10 01:47 AM
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Lemon_Twist
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Here's a link to the ICCA home page. They have some reference photos posted. I know, I know.....not suitable for OEM judging, but I added some to my car just to make it a little more interesting to look at when I am underneath it cleaning, lol. Rod ICCA page
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: FJ5_Fish]
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12/21/10 09:07 PM
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CornDogsCharger
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Thanks. It was definitely an "R" A lot of the paint was rubbed off but there was enough of it there to tell that it was looped together. A friend of mine that is pretty knowledgeable in these cars said the "RB" stood for 3.55 gears.
Justin
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1966 Dodge Charger
1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor")
1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee)
1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone)
1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: FJ5_Fish]
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12/22/10 11:01 PM
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CornDogsCharger
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Great info FJ5 Fish! You've really got me thinking now. I studied that think for close to an hour and I kept coming up with R, but the F would definitely make more sense. Here is another picture. Justin "CornDog" 
1966 Dodge Charger
1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor")
1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee)
1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone)
1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: FJ5_Fish]
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12/22/10 11:03 PM
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CornDogsCharger
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On the Daytona reared, do you know what that "4" was for?
Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor")
1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee)
1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone)
1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: CornDogsCharger]
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12/23/10 12:14 AM
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FJ5_Fish
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Great info FJ5 Fish! You've really got me thinking now. I studied that think for close to an hour and I kept coming up with R, but the F would definitely make more sense. Here is another picture.
Justin
"CornDog"
Hey - It could be an R meant to be an F but done either wrong or very sloppily. You put back what you found which is the best thing you can do for the car in question. Heck - Maybe it was a Bird thing - I'll check mine and a couple others more closely.
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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12/29/10 09:56 AM
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I agree with you that there are very rarely two cars marked up the same way. But if there were some sort of "database" or website on various markings that are found on a car... I would like to see something that translates the markings. On the cars I have done, that is always the first question I get. "What does _____ mean?" Some I know, but most of them I don't.
Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor")
1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee)
1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone)
1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: Dartman440]
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12/31/10 09:13 AM
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CornDogsCharger
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Hey Dartman440, What are the specs on this 69 Road Runner? 383... 440... auto... 4 spd, etc. Thanks! Justin "CornDog" Quote:
Here are a few of my 69 Survivor Road Runner. It is not painted past the inner leaf bolts.
1966 Dodge Charger
1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor")
1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee)
1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone)
1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: cudastruction]
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12/31/10 10:45 AM
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I used brushes
Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor")
1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee)
1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone)
1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: cudastruction]
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12/31/10 12:40 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms
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I would like to see something that translates the markings. On the cars I have done, that is always the first question I get. "What does _____ mean?" Some I know, but most of them I don't.
I agree, for this purpose such a database would be helpful. At this point no such website exists as far as I know, although there are several sites with some select info to review such as the ICCA site. There is also the problem that there is more bad information out there than good, many people have "guessed" and spread the word that "this meant that" etc. and in many cases were completely wrong.
We still have a long way to go in Mopar Land before all of the various markings are completely deciphered.
*I have been archiving photos and information on original markings for a number of years now and will continue to do so. Should anyone like to submit examples of what they find please feel free. The more that is known about the car they were taken from the better, photo's of the VIN#, Fender tag, Broadcast Sheet, etc. are always helpful and will provide more clues in determining what the markings mean. I will be adding a section to my website where the results can be viewed by all (Of course VIN and other private info will be kept private if so desired by the submittor). I have purchased several domain names which will make it easier to remember which will take you directly to the link on my home website www.harmsauto.com.
If you wish to sumbit photos and info for the archive please e-mail them to: Scott@harmsauto.com.
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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12/31/10 11:16 PM
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SHELBY TWP,,MICHIGAN
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I appreciate your passion for wanting to know about markings ....Man you picked a difficult one as far as overall correctness and location..I worked those assembly lines for many a year and there are soooo many variables here...The colors and markings and proper locations would vary for a hundred different reasons..Different inspectors, relief people, 1st to 2nd shift, vendor part changes, early to late model cars..This list is endless...I wish there were set rules here but thats just not the case...Survivor cars are excellent resources obviously....Good luck with your search..This is a tuff one...
1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles..
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Re: Is there a database for factory markings???
[Re: 72N96RR]
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01/01/11 10:12 AM
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Bill,
I agree with only the E marking on the pumpkin. Our 70 chally vert with a SPO date of 9/28/69 only has the E and not the FE. Possibly due to the early production date of the car.
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yeah I know I need to grab my camera. Just wanted to post some pics of the markings
