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Why is it so many of the guys want to live in the past
as in all the old pics and things of that nature...
Sure I liked it back then went I was a kid but I
never got into all of the old stuff now days ...
life moves on... just seems like some people dont
I'm not saying its a bad thing just wondering

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Just history stuff that's cool. For me it's the paint jobs, the look of the wheels and tires and the freedoms people enjoyed.



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People tend to remember the good things about the past and overlook the bad...hindsight is 20-20 (the things you'd do differently...), and ya can't know where you're going, unless you know where you've been....things were a whole lot simpler, too...

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Wife tells me i'm stuck in the past , think she has a point , if you look back @ the past you're gonna miss the future , thing is , the present will one day be the past , so i guess were all living in the past right now , so just enjoy.

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Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871075
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Why is it so many of the guys want to live in the past
as in all the old pics and things of that nature...
Sure I liked it back then went I was a kid but I
never got into all of the old stuff now days ...
life moves on... just seems like some people dont
I'm not saying its a bad thing just wondering





Well as far as cars,it was the golden years.
The choice of desirable, affordable, performance cars that anyone could work on without the need for high tech computers programs etc.
I was able to buy a 2 year old big block car with the money earned after school part time, .and still be able to buy some speed goodies occasionally. I don't think that is true today.
The prices for speed parts is more now, even if there are better parts the cost is huge by comparison.
The little guy had a chance at competing on a national level and winning!
These are a few things that come to mind.
The pictures take me back to that time.



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That's very true. Just the other day I was looking at old pics of cars I had 20 or 30 years ago. I instantly remember the joyful times of cruising or racing them - while almost completely forgetting all of the "bad" times I spent trying to keep them on the road due to self-inflicted stupid move induced failures or just general breakage.

Ahhh, the "good old days"... when I didn't know any better. LOL

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Well as far as cars,it was the golden years.
The choice of desirable, affordable, performance cars that anyone could work on without the need for high tech computers programs etc.
I was able to buy a 2 year old big block car with the money earned after school part time, .and still be able to buy some speed goodies occasionally. I don't think that is true today.
The prices for speed parts is more now, even if there are better parts the cost is huge by comparison.
The little guy had a chance at competing on a national level and winning!
These are a few things that come to mind.
The pictures take me back to that time.





I dont know for fact what the ratio is with todays
wages vs then but I dont think thats the factor...
there are WAY more go fast goodies now then back then...
we had to make alot of the stuff back then... today
you open the wallet(unless your like me... cheap and
enjoy making stuff)



People tend to remember the good things about the past and overlook the bad...hindsight is 20-20 (the things you'd do differently...), and ya can't know where you're going, unless you know where you've been....things were a whole lot simpler, too...



We all think it was simpler back then but I think
it was due the lack of knowledge... back then we
didnt have the communications we have now... it use
to take weeks to find out stuff on the other side
of the world... now we know in seconds if someone
is trying to blow up the world....and of course the
computer... this is just my opinion... the cars run
faster and quick now than ever before.. heck alot
of guys on this board have cars faster than the PS
cars of the past

Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871078
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I liked the cars that were available but much prefer the parts and technology available today. When someone around me starts talking about the 'good old days' I tell them we are living them right now. It was alot of hard work then, much more so than today.Dave

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Mike,
I agree with you on much of what you are saying, but!
If I think of teams like "The Surfers" that built a top fueler in a Motel Garage, that won the March Meet, defeating Garlits, Kalita,and a total of 64 car field . That's what I am talking about!
Yes they were only running in the 7s but there wasn't a mega million $ backing either.
http://www.draglist.com/stories/SOD%20Feb%202000/SOD-022300.htm

Sure cars are faster today, but those days had their own appeal too.

Mark



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Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871080
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Why is it so many of the guys want to live in the past
as in all the old pics and things of that nature...
Sure I liked it back then went I was a kid but I
never got into all of the old stuff now days ...
life moves on... just seems like some people dont
I'm not saying its a bad thing just wondering





For me, it was a simpler easier time with less worries, despite the Cold War. The cars were better, by-'n-large, jobs were easier to get, music was better & there was an accepted level(?) of social behavior that, despite being the 60s/70s, wasn't nearly as outrageous, violent or dangerous as it is now.
From an automotive standpoint-- at no time did the more of the public have more horsepower handed to them for so relatively little money. Looking at it another way, the 60s were to cars what WWII was to aircraft--at no other time was there so much power being developed for piston-driven conveyences and we'll never see that time again.....

Re: The PAST [Re: hemicop] #871081
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Unless you were there it's hard to explain and impossible to understand.

we all raced heads up in a chosen NHRA/AHRA etc. classes We all raced within a set of rules.

The racing mindset was completely different in every way you could imagine.
The biggest difference from today is the lack of creativity and ingenuity
.In most every case you had to find out what made your car faster on your own.
No Jeg's or Summit loaded with parts. I always felt that when bracket racing came along and eliminated class racing it killed what made it most enjoyable for me. Racing heads against other cars with comparable combinations same as mine or and different brands on a level playing field.
And then beating the other guy with the bigger wallet was always more fun.
Pocket size came in second to hard work back then.


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I can also be thrown in the crowd of I dont get it, hanging onto the past that is. Maybe it is my past which was by all accounts not very good. I grew up extremely poor and struggled for even the simplest of things as well as more than my fair share of issue with the law. Maybe it is watching my Grandmother slip into the past from Alzhiemers or my mothers inability to move on from her past but I prefer the future. Whether it is football, racing or life. Just the way I am. I am probably one of the only guys here who routinely does not look at all the posts on here about the past.


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Fred I started in 67 but was at the track in 64 so
that was the start for me so dont give me that stuff
"you wouldnt understand".... the stuff I did on my cars
was mostly on my own... and back then we had ALL those
classes... I just dont understand why so many cant
seem to move on... like their whole life is still
wrapped up in "the good old days"

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You know what they say....Yo are living in the good ole days right now


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quote]Fred I started in 67 but was at the track in 64 so
that was the start for me so dont give me that stuff
"you wouldnt understand".... the stuff I did on my cars
was mostly on my own... and back then we had ALL those
classes... I just dont understand why so many cant
seem to move on... like their whole life is still
wrapped up in "the good old days"







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Unless you were there it's hard to explain and impossible to understand.





Then you are amongst those who should understand what I said and how it pertains to me . Primarily this is how I feel about racing. The same cant be said about other facets of my life .You can look at my cars and see I don't live in the past . I might own a nostalgia car but also a turbo car and the modern hi tech supercharged Caddy


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I have no problem living in the past


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I do have a problem living in the future


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The past is cool but yesterday is gone. I look very much to the future.

Its getting down to even some of the last V8s F M J mopars are catching on....a whole new world from the norm.

The advancement of small block strokers, ect...

Things arnt so bad these days

I miss my first car, a hemi bee but it nothing compared to what I have now...but I was 15 then.

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Unless you were there it's hard to explain and impossible to understand.





Then you are amongst those who should understand what I said and how it pertains to me . Primarily this is how I feel about racing. The same cant be said about other facets of my life .You can look at my cars and see I don't live in the past . I might own a nostalgia car but also a turbo car and the modern hi tech supercharged Caddy




Fred I grew up on Woodward....I lived 1 mile from
13 and Woodward and from about 14 years old I was
out there damn near every night... I seen all the
factory teams out there... but that was then

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I started out pulling tractors way back when the rule book was re-wrote almost every year in the ntpa as things advanced and people got smarter.

Id love to get back in it but the money factor and the way things are done now are so foreign it would take years to get back in the groove.

But it was fun.

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I started out pulling tractors way back when the rule book was re-wrote almost every year in the ntpa as things advanced and people got smarter




I raced unil 1972 then quit to build Harley's. Returned in mid 80's. Got lost with rule changes


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because stuff was made much better...
lots of things where real...hand made or made from scratch with craftsmanship...
not like today...
every thing is from china and throw away...
i have a watch from my grandfather that was handed down..to me..it cost him $150 in 1960
its now worth atleast 1000 bucks.but its a fine watch..for centimental value plus its real $ amount.
people dont care about this stuff right now.
tell me something worth handing down to your grandkids?....your plasma screen?,,your plastic watch.? oh i know you cell phone...
all worth zero...by next christmas..

this in general is the gist of it...
the more you put in the more you get out..
taken a sunday drive to the icecrean stand with your kids lately?
or a drive in movie?
oh i know .for a grilled burger served through
the window...?
i didnt think so...?
even if you could do this today..the kids would probably not want to go anyway..
they would rather stay home and wait for the text reply from the kid next door..
or choose to stay plugged into the playstation..
i mean why climb mount everest when you can just watch it/play it on a dvd....?

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Its funny, I often tell my 12 year old son about " The Past", and he loves to hear the stories. I have done a lot and accomplished a lot for my age and engaged in many opportunites as I was younger. never afraid to jump in and try anything and wasnt afraid to work hard. he always asks me about what it was like doing this or that years ago. he is already smart enough to realize that we live in a self consuming all about me society. He knows the past was more honest and wholesome. He always says he wishes he could go back and see what things were like. He suspects it was better.I would agree with him.

As far as racing in the past, hell , its how we all got started. You cant help but remember it. It was real racing then. Blood, sweat and gears.


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because stuff was made much better...
lots of things where real...hand made or made from scratch with craftsmanship...
not like today...


YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING... the cars back then were junk
compared to a car now... the engine back then would
live about 100K the metal fell off and we wont even
talk about the GAPS/margins so I dont buy the car
thing but some of the other stuff about the younger
people is correct BUT does that make you want to
stay in the past

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through the years of my 20's 30's and 40's i liked to look back to see if i could ever catch up with what my buddy's had done to their cars .
Now at almost 60 i look to the future cause my time is getting short and i don't try and keep up with anyone.


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One thing is for sure. Nobody will be looking for a 50 year old model year 2000 anything in 2050. None of the "new" or "modern" cars will be around that long. They are all disposable / recyclable, 1-time use and throw it away kind of possessions now.

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Why is it so many of the guys want to live in the past
as in all the old pics and things of that nature...
Sure I liked it back then went I was a kid but I
never got into all of the old stuff now days ...
life moves on... just seems like some people dont
I'm not saying its a bad thing just wondering






so your on for A new challenger v10 ?

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The "in" thing now at car shows seem to be unrestored old race cars from the '60-70's. Looking at what pieces of crap they were it amazes me that we have any old drag racers left around. Factor in that most of the tracks back then were barely safer than street racing and you can double that thought.

I like looking at the old cars/pics though to see how many I remember from when I started racing.

Lots of people like to whine about the NHRA now and how much things cost, and how much cheaper it was back then. Unfortunately for me, it wasn't any cheaper back then because I didn't make much money and couldn't afford it anyway.

The good old days are fun to look at now and then, but I for one am glad they're gone.


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I have to log into this. I was there, my match race pupose in drag racing was to get paid to be there to get beat up on by guys like Ronnie Sox, Don Carlton, Don Nickolson, etc. At the reunion in Henderson, the last year he was alive Ronnie, Bobby Warren and myself were standing in front of the elevator discussing this same thing. We were talking about how much fun it was in those days unlike racing now. The fact that we were out there, a racer paid by a large corporation, a tobacco farmer racing out of a tobacco barn in Clinton, NC and a speed shop clerk racing some weeks every night. As Buddy Martin said when he got paid his first $500 as a book in show he thought they had hit the big time. We talked about John Force and where he came from sleeping in his truck and eating balogna sandwiches to have to answer to all of the people he has to look after. If you think the history of drag racing and the interest is gone go to Face book and search East Coast Drag Times Hall of Fame Part 1 and Part 2. Watch the video and see the ages of the people there. The future of drag racing will never match the history of drag racing.

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Quote:

Quote:

because stuff was made much better...
lots of things where real...hand made or made from scratch with craftsmanship...
not like today...


YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING... the cars back then were junk
compared to a car now... the engine back then would
live about 100K the metal fell off and we wont even
talk about the GAPS/margins so I dont buy the car
thing but some of the other stuff about the younger
people is correct BUT does that make you want to
stay in the past





yeah cars were junk back then, that's why a Hemi Cuda cost about 150 thousand now
100k on the engine, but easy to replace. I will say that cars were different back then. New cars are a lot better right now but I enjoyed what I had then and I also enjoy what I have now. A man´s life is a mix of his past, his present and they way he looks at the future.

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yeah cars were junk back then, that's why a Hemi Cuda cost about 150 thousand now
100k on the engine, but easy to replace. I will say that cars were different back then. New cars are a lot better right now but I enjoyed what I had then and I also enjoy what I have now. A man´s life is a mix of his past, his present and they way he looks at the future.




The only reason they cost that much now is due to
the low amount made and at that price it better be
a real nice one... and most likely it had 50K put
into it to get that price

Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871104
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Im having a hard time deciding on whether or not to buy a DeLorean, Mike..

I figure if I go back to the past I'll get all my hair back and lose the grey/silver and get that masculine figure back..

and of course see all my old girl friends as I didnt get married the first time till I was 37...

ahhhh...to be single again

Re: The PAST [Re: smokinwoody] #871105
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Im having a hard time deciding on whether or not to buy a DeLorean, Mike..

I figure if I go back to the past I'll get all my hair back and lose the grey/silver and get that masculine figure back..

and of course see all my old girl friends as I didnt get married the first time till I was 37...

ahhhh...to be single again




Well I still have all my hair... its dark... thanks
to chemicals ... no comment about the marriages
(as in plurals)

Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871106
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I definetly love the past best. I grew up in the 60's and started driving in 1974 but I was into drag racing in the 60's. I know I love the past better and I guess thats why I dont care for cowl hoods on Mopars and I am not a fan of the areo scoops either. I prefer the scoops of the era the cars are from. I loved the fact that even in 1972 you could still see your Drag Race hero at your local track match racing. I saw Ronnie Sox race at our local track as well as Dyno Don and Da Grump. Do you think you will ever see a Pro at your local tracks today ?? Match racing was so cool. And I love the Factory SS wars as it helped with some of the muscle cars produced. Times were much less hectic and I liked the cars much better. And the cars looked way cooler then this ugly stuff they make today. But when it comes to my job I know more about the electronics on the new Mopars then anyone at the dealers I have worked at as thats basically all I do is work on the new car electronics. But I would much rather work restoring muscle cars any day. Ron

Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871107
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Back in the mid-70's when all the local tracks ran Modified, Super Stock and Stock every week, you had to get there early on Saturday afternoon to get a good seat in the stands. There were bleachers for maybe 2-3000 at Edgewater back then, plenty of room down track to back up to the fence with your pickup or wagon and and watch from near the finish line. This was on the spectator side, the pit side was race cars only and you had to pay $1 to cross over to see the action in the pits.

If they ran a booked-in Funny Car show, the fans would be 5-deep at the starting line. They also had a Division 3 Winston meet every year when they ran TF, FC, and Pro Stock for national points. They always had a full field of cars.

By the time of the mid-80's bracket racing had taken over, gas prices and inflation seriously depleted the sport. You would still see a decent crowd of spectators at the tracks, good crowd if they ran Q16, UDRA, or match race.

Today there are so many options for entertainment that very few people want to watch drag racing anymore. People would rather sit at home and watch inane TV shows than go to the local strip, my friends say it is boring, it takes too long, it's too hot out, etc., etc., but they will spend time and money going to casinos and pro sporting events.

Yes, Mr. P those were the good old days for drag racing.

Re: The PAST [Re: cgall] #871108
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Heres some Past.... Just look at the old mopars ..


Might be a old vid........


http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/blastpast/2010/RidesAPaleHorse04162010/


Remember in here some don't think you should have a Opinion.. sad fact..
Re: The PAST [Re: kens avenger] #871109
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I got my drivers license in 1968 and had every mopar muscle car brochure ever made.....don't get me wrong GTO's, Boss Mustangs, Olds 442's....etc also were included....my point is....there is not a car made today that gives me that feeling even if they are faster

Rickster

Re: The PAST [Re: rickstershemi] #871110
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I got my drivers license in 1968 and had every mopar muscle car brochure ever made.....don't get me wrong GTO's, Boss Mustangs, Olds 442's....etc also were included....my point is....there is not a car made today that gives me that feeling even if they are faster

Rickster




It was exciting to see what was going to be offered by the auto makers for the new year. Now the real high perf cars are heavy in weight and $. I can't get excited about them.



1996 Ram 1500 Sport
1968 road runner
1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019
Re: The PAST [Re: Hemi Allstate] #871111
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not to mention the world itself was a MUCH better place than this SH!THOLE we live in today.


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Re: The PAST [Re: kens avenger] #871112
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Heres some Past.... Just look at the old mopars ..


Might be a old vid........


http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/blastpast/2010/RidesAPaleHorse04162010/


About half way through that vid is the "White Lightening" Allison powered rail. Our 64 Dodge is in the background ( in the pits ) at the end of that vid. Raced at that track more than any other in the midwest area.


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Re: The PAST [Re: Crizila] #871113
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I have no problem living in the past




Crizila,
You must have been a high roller back then, I spotted that 'Ideal' Trailer!

Remembering the past is okay as long as it's not all one does.

Re: The PAST [Re: TMP66] #871114
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Ahh,,, the past, the present.... what difference does it really make... we are all just along for the ride.... might as well just make the best of it

Re: The PAST [Re: TMP66] #871115
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I have no problem living in the past




Crizila,
You must have been a high roller back then, I spotted that 'Ideal' Trailer!

Remembering the past is okay as long as it's not all one does.


Ya, it's fun to remember that stuff and look at the old pics once in a while, but dwelling / living in the past too much is a bad thing. I can truthfully say that when my wife and I go to the track today we have every bit as much fun as I did way back when. It is different - no doubt, but still fun. I'm very lucky to have a wife that enjoys it as much as I do.


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Re: The PAST [Re: Hemi Allstate] #871116
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I remember back in the early 80s someone making $4/hour could could get and fix up (or drive as is) a great running musclecar. The pre 1972 440s and 383s were PLENTIFULL and you could run one as is- OR you could do a rings bearings and gasket rebuild with Blackjack headers, Torker intake and a Holley carb and be the street racing king. This could be done on a working kids wage. In 2010 I dont see any low income kids who can buy a 10 year old stang and rebuild the motor- let along buy and install hi po goodies. Its just not a gearhead friendly day and age.


Keep old mopars alive.
Re: The PAST [Re: 2boltmain] #871117
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I like remembering the past....

6339260-IMG_0010.jpg (70 downloads)

If you like drag racing, support your local track.
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After run....

6339262-IMG_0011.jpg (100 downloads)

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Re: The PAST [Re: Crizila] #871119
12/05/10 02:33 PM
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I'm very lucky to have a wife that enjoys it as much as I do.






"Everybody funny, now you funny too."
Re: The PAST [Re: slantzilla] #871120
12/05/10 03:43 PM
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I don't really get this post?

Im only 21 so I like hearing about the past. I like seeing the pictures of how things used to be. I like hearing the stories at the race track. The crazy street racing.. etc.

Whats so wrong about seeing pictures and talking about the past? Its a learning experience for some of us. Its the grassroots of why drag racing is what it is today.

They teach history throughout school... so why cant history be taught about a sport that we all love? call me crazy but i like knowing everything I can about this sport.

Heck I race in Nostalgia Super Stock... A class developed so it would be "like" racing in the past... Call it living in the past or whatever you want but these cars may look the part but they all have parts from the present.

So I hope you all continue to post pics and tell stories about the past and how it used to be. Like I said.. some of us were not around for it.

Maybe I got this post all wrong, but this is how I took it.

Casey

Re: The PAST [Re: Whompin_Wedge] #871121
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I don't really get this post?

Im only 21 so I like hearing about the past. I like seeing the pictures of how things used to be. I like hearing the stories at the race track. The crazy street racing.. etc.

Whats so wrong about seeing pictures and talking about the past? Its a learning experience for some of us. Its the grassroots of why drag racing is what it is today.

They teach history throughout school... so why cant history be taught about a sport that we all love? call me crazy but i like knowing everything I can about this sport.

Heck I race in Nostalgia Super Stock... A class developed so it would be "like" racing in the past... Call it living in the past or whatever you want but these cars may look the part but they all have parts from the present.

So I hope you all continue to post pics and tell stories about the past and how it used to be. Like I said.. some of us were not around for it.

Maybe I got this post all wrong, but this is how I took it.

Casey




You basically got it right... its just that SOME
want to live the good old days ALL the time... I dont
mind it once in a while because I did enjoy those
day... even in your class they want you to use some
part or parts that are era correct and that doesnt
allow for max power..... JMO

Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871122
12/05/10 04:40 PM
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I'm just trying to create some "Good old days" NOW with some good OLD stuff.

Lets face it, old tech is fun and basic. And NOW there's more aftermarket and new tech stuff to compliment it.

But when it comes to having the same old hairstyle like back in the day............that's where I draw the line.

Take the good from the old and enjoy it now with the new.


R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
Re: The PAST [Re: dusturbd340W5] #871123
12/05/10 09:54 PM
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not to mention the world itself was a MUCH better place than this SH!THOLE we live in today.


Do you really think so between the cold war and the Vietnam war I would beg to differ.

Re: The PAST [Re: Dartari] #871124
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not to mention the world itself was a MUCH better place than this SH!THOLE we live in today.


Do you really think so between the cold war and the Vietnam war I would beg to differ.




Sorry but yes I do think so and that's my opinion just like you have yours


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Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871125
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Why is it so many of the guys want to live in the past
as in all the old pics and things of that nature...
Sure I liked it back then went I was a kid but I
never got into all of the old stuff now days ...
life moves on... just seems like some people dont
I'm not saying its a bad thing just wondering



Mr P Body you have to understand people get nostalgia for a whole host of reasons but for us car guys especially for me it brings back fond memories of friends and family we have left behind and are youthful days and seemingly simpler times it just seems today we live in a more stressfull time.

Re: The PAST [Re: dusturbd340W5] #871126
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not to mention the world itself was a MUCH better place than this SH!THOLE we live in today.


Do you really think so between the cold war and the Vietnam war I would beg to differ.




Sorry but yes I do think so and that's my opinion just like you have yours


Yes you are right you have that right but your perspective might be different if you feared getting drated or did get drafted to go to war.

Re: The PAST [Re: Dartari] #871127
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not to mention the world itself was a MUCH better place than this SH!THOLE we live in today.


Do you really think so between the cold war and the Vietnam war I would beg to differ.




Sorry but yes I do think so and that's my opinion just like you have yours


Yes you are right you have that right but your perspective might be different if you feared getting drated or did get drafted to go to war.




I would have no problem fighting for our country I did not have to but I would have and to those that did I have all the respect for in the world but I would think that most of them hate to see what our government has allowed to happen to this country.


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Re: The PAST [Re: dusturbd340W5] #871128
12/06/10 03:03 AM
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So what are you saying here….are all threads that have to do with the past are now going to be banned on Moparts?

See, I along with a lot of other people on here were not around when a lot of history was being made, so we have to live it through old pictures, videos and stories.

As far as I'm concerned, racing lost it's hart in the late 80’s early 90's when racers started using delay boxes, cross over boxes and throttle stops. Geez, some of the cars have more buttons on the steering wheel than the space shuttle. To me that sux's. If you can't hit the light the first time then you shouldn't be in the damn car. (JMO) If you can't run the number with out using a timer to shut the carb off then you shouldn't be in the car. (JMO)
I personally hate WATCHING bracket racing... I think it's like watching paint dry. Bracket racing is the reason why there are no more crowds at the drag strip. Have you ever heard someone in the stands trying to explain to a first timer why the car that lost went TOO FAST?
Now before everyone jumps on me about bracket racing... I do understand that if it were not for bracket racing drag racing would have died years ago just because of cost. It's here to stay and I understand it but I don't have to like it. And yes when your racing the car it is exciting for the driver.

So I guess I'll have to live the great class racing years through old pictures, stories, and videos.

I guess people who like to wear cowboy hats and boots just can’t get over the past either.

Re: The PAST [Re: KD800X] #871129
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I always enjoy talking about the past and all the memorys good and bad.It is great to share all the experiences and knowledge that one aquires over many years and makes for good bench racing.I get a kick from sitting around at events and watching the faces on the younger guys as stories are being told.Still the way I reflex the past is after each day sitting back and being thankful for having had another day to enjoy and looking forward to another one tommarrow.The past is the sum of all our yesterdays leading up to who we are today and the future is what we do with all we have experienced in the past.The best is when your sitting in that rocking chair on the porch with a big grin on your face remembering all the things you did in the past and not sitting there thinking about all the things you wished you had done.We are all here for a visit,make the most of it You never know when the clock stops ticking."It's not the years in life,but the life lived in the years"Abe Lincoln

Re: The PAST [Re: KD800X] #871130
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So what are you saying here….are all threads that have to do with the past are now going to be banned on Moparts?



Nope... thats not at all what I am saying... believe
me I enjoyed the "good old days" and maybe I enjoy the
current times even better.... I'm sure I'll think
about the good old days much more when I'm on my
way out... but for me I spend more time in the current
and what needs to happen tomorrow... you know I
think I might have figured it out(a little) but if
you have spare time and just sitting around doing
nothing then thats when you start reminiscing, so
maybe I just dont allow my self that much spare time
(I am usually busy)

Re: The PAST [Re: MR_P_BODY] #871131
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So what are you saying here….are all threads that have to do with the past are now going to be banned on Moparts?



Nope... thats not at all what I am saying... believe
me I enjoyed the "good old days" and maybe I enjoy the
current times even better.... I'm sure I'll think
about the good old days much more when I'm on my
way out... but for me I spend more time in the current
and what needs to happen tomorrow... you know I
think I might have figured it out(a little) but if
you have spare time and just sitting around doing
nothing then thats when you start reminiscing, so
maybe I just dont allow my self that much spare time
(I am usually busy)





Idle hands are the devils playground The past makes for great stories,the present and future are awaiting to become those great stories.Don't spend time remembering yesterday,when you can be accomplishing new things to talk about.It's bad when your with friends and you say did I ever tell you about the time and they all say yes in concert.It's better to say "guess what I just did or guess what I'am going to do",you will have a very attentive bunch of listeners.

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Biggest problem I have with the present is getting up and down on the creeper more than 30 times a day - and the garage should be warm enough by now to continue installing my CalTracs.

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Re: The PAST [Re: Crizila] #871133
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Biggest problem I have with the present is getting up and down on the creeper more than 30 times a day - and the garage should be warm enough by now to continue installing my CalTracs.




LOL... I put the "in the concrete" heating in my
shop and a hoist... the only way to fly... the concrete
is nice and warm.... plus the small instant boiler and pump
are quiet (very efficient)... so I dont listen to
a fan over my stereo

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Biggest problem I have with the present is getting up and down on the creeper more than 30 times a day - and the garage should be warm enough by now to continue installing my CalTracs.




LOL... I put the "in the concrete" heating in my
shop and a hoist... the only way to fly... the concrete
is nice and warm.... plus the small instant boiler and pump
are quiet (very efficient)... so I dont listen to
a fan over my stereo



Im jealous!


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Re: The PAST [Re: Crizila] #871135
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Me, too, it is only about 45 degres in my garage right now,trying to get some things done and had to come in for warm up and lunch break.

Oh, and despite how great the drag racing was in the past, I would not want to go back. You can still class race in NHRA on 1/4 mile any weekend you want to, it just might cost a little more and you might have to travel a little more.

Re: The PAST [Re: cgall] #871136
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Romeo MI
I keep it at 64*... any more than that (for me) its
too warm when working.... for me if my feet are warm
I'm happy

Re: The PAST [Re: B G Racing] #871137
12/06/10 05:19 PM
12/06/10 05:19 PM
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Diego-Town, CA
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I always enjoy talking about the past and all the memorys good and bad.It is great to share all the experiences and knowledge that one aquires over many years and makes for good bench racing.I get a kick from sitting around at events and watching the faces on the younger guys as stories are being told.Still the way I reflex the past is after each day sitting back and being thankful for having had another day to enjoy and looking forward to another one tommarrow.The past is the sum of all our yesterdays leading up to who we are today and the future is what we do with all we have experienced in the past.The best is when your sitting in that rocking chair on the porch with a big grin on your face remembering all the things you did in the past and not sitting there thinking about all the things you wished you had done.We are all here for a visit,make the most of it You never know when the clock stops ticking."It's not the years in life,but the life lived in the years"Abe Lincoln




Anyone who has been to my racing sight knows I love the past. It was simple then, a set of 50s, a 3/4 cam and a set of blackjacks and cherry bombs and you were a racer! You could go to the local track and for 10 bucks go head to head with the bigs of the local scene. You then had a weeks worth of stories for the boys! Me and my buddies have just as good of a time now a days, they just cost more and are fewer in between.

Diego

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