1997 360 motor smoking issue, any ideas?
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11/09/10 06:26 PM
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With all the knoweledge on this board i figure someone might have had this experience and or knows what the problem might be? I bought a 97 dodge pickup 2500 series which has a 360 motor. Truck starts up and runs very nice but days later I noticed that she was blowing out blue smoke on first start up in the morning. She'd smoke for at least 30's or more then back to normal. But when driving it the exhaust fumes were to much so I'm thinking she's still burning oil along with the normal carbon. A friend of mine is a mopar tech for some time now. Some of his suspisions were correct based upon some of his experiences. The intake manifold gasket was bad, number 5 cylinder plug fell apart in his had after being removed along with oil on the plugs. We removed the heads and found alot of carbon buildup on some of the valves especially number 5. He cleaned up all the valve surfaces along with seating job and replaced all seals, intake gasket, head gaskets, cleaned out the original pcv valve. Did the injector cleaning, Replaced wires, plugs cap and rotor for tune, and also a new oil sending unit. Truck performed great for 4 days. The 5th morning i go to start it up and she started smoking the same way again? Took it back to the garage and removed the plugs and noticed oil on them. Checked the seals to see if any had popped off, nothing. All seals still on. I;m thinking if it were the rings wouldn't it constantly be smoking when driving? She does not smoke on start up after using her all day, just after sitting for 10 14 hours initially. Hmmm? any ideas? Thanks ahead of time
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Re: 1997 360 motor smoking issue, any ideas?
[Re: goldmember]
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11/09/10 07:04 PM
11/09/10 07:04 PM
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Did you replace the belly pan gasket? Open the throttle or remove the throttle body and using a bright light check for oil in the bottom of the plenum.
At this point, if the belly pan wasn't changed along with the belly pan gasket, you've got a leak there. 1996 to 2000 were notorious. Don't use an aftermarket gasket either. Go to the dealer and get the proper pan AND the proper gasket AND the proper 15 bolts that hold it on. Like said...if you look down the throttle body you will see oil puddled on the intake floor.
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Re: 1997 360 motor smoking issue, any ideas?
[Re: RapidRobert]
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11/09/10 07:41 PM
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any ideas?
I'm thinking intake gasket again. I toss the front/rear seals as they can be too thick & hold the intake up a very slight bit too high but they tend to make the front water port(s) leak after time but mainly in your case I'd suggest a thick/wide carefully placed swath of clear silicone instead (front & rear)instead of the gaskets, on brake kleen(ed) surfaces & let it sit up overnight and on the intake/head ports on the side I use composite side gaskets w Permatex sealer rather than the tin ones though I've used the tin (w sealer not dry) EDIT if this is a magnum torque intake bolts 1-4 in 12 INCH lb increments (in order 1 thru 4 (6) times) to 72 inch lbs then the remaining bolts to 72 inch lbs in 1 shot starting w #5 (to # 12) in order. Then (re)tighten all bolts (in order 1-12) to 72 inch lbs then repeat on 1-12 again
He replaced the belly gasket, tightened manifold to specs above, used silicone. I don;t think that explains why the 4 plugs on driver side still are wet? were checking the pass side soon. We also replaced the rear intake bolts being the original bolt heads were completely gone. That was an hours worth of time just removing them haha...
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