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69 440
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10/29/10 12:17 AM
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i just scored a 69' 440 long block, it was rebuilt by s&s remanfacting in Spokae WA, the guy i got it from never has installed it, it was still on the shipping crate and plastic, it has been oiled up and in good shape, i have no info with it, the guy i bought it from got it from a man who owed him some money, i have taken pics and have the number on the motor, can someone please give me the specs on this motor and also give me some good ideas how to care for this motor before i put in my car, also, it will be maybe 3mths before i can put in my car, how do i store this motor to keep the motor in good shape?
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Re: 69 440
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10/29/10 12:37 AM
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i was told that it was built back to factory specs, factory cam, i know the bore may be bigger , i was just wondering if i could get the specs, i mean, what auto this engine wld have come in, what horespower rating and factory compression ratio, may factory cam specs, is this possible?
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Re: 69 440
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10/29/10 12:43 AM
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here is the date and the numbers on the side of the motor, does anybody have the specs by using only the numbers?
There's no way to tell what cam or pistons are in it now since it's been rebuilt? Hopefully, it still has the forged crank? Someone with experience can tell by looking at it. A machine shop could determine the specs on it but they probably have to remove one head. You can get some idea of what the original specs were if you post a photo of the top engine pad. It's the flat area to the right of the distributor on the drivers' side with numbers and letters stamped on it. It should at least say E440 with some other letters and numbers. You can get an idea of what body it came out of from the partial VIN stamped in the milled area on the bottom of the side of the motor on the passenger side (just above the oil pan rail).
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Re: 69 440
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10/29/10 12:50 AM
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what auto this engine wld have come in, what horespower rating and factory compression ratio, may factory cam specs, is this possible?
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Look on the passenger's side for the full or partial VIN number. That may tell you the full VIN of the car or at least the plant where it was built. Then we can go from there.
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Re: 69 440
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10/29/10 02:14 AM
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It's a 1970 motor assembled Dec 22, 1969 with a factory rating of 350 horse power, probably out of a C body. I think the only difference are the cam, valve size and carbureation. It would have an HP stamped on the top engine pad if it came in a muscle car, What are the casting numbers on the heads?
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Re: 69 440
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10/29/10 08:27 AM
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i was told that it was built back to factory specs, factory cam, i know the bore may be bigger , i was just wondering if i could get the specs, i mean, what auto this engine wld have come in, what horespower rating and factory compression ratio, may factory cam specs, is this possible?
thanks
Doesn't matter what you were TOLD, it could have anything inside of it , first off unless it was rebuilt to factory 6pk specs there is NO EXACT replacement piston for a 440, I'd hazard a guess that the pistons in it are probably .100 below the deck and that's not a factory replacement piston for any 1970 440.
What you need to do is CALL the shop that rebuilt it and see if they can give you the info off the block , look for a tag or stamp of some sort .
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Re: 69 440
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10/29/10 08:15 PM
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hey John, i have emailed the company and they are trying to find the build sheet, i sure hope they can, i wld just like having the specs, i plan on changing the cam anyway, i wld just like to have this info, thanks for your help, i will post the results once i have them thanks 
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Re: 69 440
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10/29/10 08:46 PM
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would a C body have a hp2 block. On the top pad it has E440 wouldn't that be a 69 engine?
thats roadrunnerjd's sample pic you're looking at not the one in question...
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Re: 69 440
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10/29/10 10:56 PM
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i will have to get the numbers on the head for you and get back to you, i know they are 906 heads, thats all i know
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It depends on what you want to do with it but with the 906 heads, it should run very strong in an every day street machine. Unless you expect to build an 11 second race car, I think it's likely to be a very good motor just with decent intake, ignition and the right carburation. With today's gas, you don't need 10.1:1 compression but my experience with the 68 and up blocks is that they will not generally have .100 deck height. The 67 blocks did because they had to keep the compression down with the small combustion chambers in the 67 and earlier heads. I would keep it in a controlled climate if possible but it won't rust too easily. It would be good if you could paint it, spray down the bare steel with some Mopar MP50 or equal and put a HD leaf bag over it to seal it up. It should be fine for months. 
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Re: 69 440
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10/30/10 01:27 AM
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i am planning to bump up the cam to comp cam , extreme engery 274/286 230/236 .488/.491 110, 2800stall, holley 750 vac. sec., headers, ready to run dist., i have 3.55 sure grip, 2 1.2 dual exhaust, what do you think about this set up in my 68'dodge coronet R/T? 
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