Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: tntmachine]
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10/22/10 06:18 PM
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'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: HEMIFRED]
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10/22/10 11:31 PM
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KB for me. I make over 1050hp, with a lot less cubes and no issues with it at all. The cam however was a different story
My Indy just made 1180 hp all motor
I agree Fred..
I have an Indy now.. I got it in 01.. One of their earlier low deck blocks. But I would NOT EVER buy directly from them again. Just real jerks. But, IF I decided to get another Indy block, I would most likely get it from BGR.. Just saying, I would rather give my $$$ to Ken Black because he is a stand up guy. Plus a better product. Indy has a good block.. They are just the worst people on the planet..
Chris..
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: 72sat]
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10/22/10 11:40 PM
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you guys with the indy's,how much money did it take to get your engine togather?
I bought the block through chenoweth speed and machine. Once it was ready to go I had probably 5k in just the block. Decked,honed ect. As for total cost of the engine I would have to add it up. I bought the low deck version with 440 mains.
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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10/23/10 02:11 AM
10/23/10 02:11 AM
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I am the original owner of Al's block, and I chose the KB block for several reasons, which I would hope some of you will take into account, after reading this.
On a personal level, my mother used to babysit Ken Black way back in the day, and we have always cherished the Black family, for being good, quality people.
To be honest, I didn't even consider the Indy block. Why? Well, the reason why most will buy an aluminum block, is the fact that you could blow it to bits, and, in most cases, get it fixed. It is no big news that the folks at Indy, are some of biggest morons on the face of the planet. No offense to anyone that sells the Indy stuff from their stores/machine/race shops, but, if one of your customers blew up their Indy block, would you offer to fix it, or would you tell them to send it back to Indy to get it fixed? If you could fix it, how much experience do you have in properly fixing/welding an aluminum block? I would love to be a fly on the wall when the gods at Indy get a call about a damaged block that needs to fixed. You would probably get berated and treated like a fool.
The people at KB do this stuff each and every day. They have been repairing blown up blocks for decades, from Top Fuel to Street Hemi's.
Above and beyond anything that I have said, I sent my business to KB because THEY DESERVED MY BUSINESS! Why? Well, because they are not cocky, and, although they are not perfect, they will not let you down, while giving you a product that will be able to see more horsepower than you will probably need. I had a few minor issues with my block when I ordered it from Ken, but, he made it right, and I couldn't have been happier.
Will the Indy make power and work? Yes, it has been proven. When things go wrong, who will be there to take care of you? I may be way off base with my opinion, and my decision to buy a KB block, but, people also thought that I was on dope for thinking that my little 525" B-1 motor, would make anywhere near 950 HP, with a single carb.
1040+ HP later, I felt real good about my decision.
Bottom line, Good people deserve my business, and I will stand behind them any day of the week, over someone who thinks they are doing YOU a favor by doing business with you.
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
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10/23/10 02:15 AM
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526 now Oh yeah new cam, lifters, rods, pistons Oh yeah could not be happier with it well except the original cam was bad, not gonna be going there again, makes two for me from them. I need to send you the pictures of it, ugly. Anyway had 243 passes on it and all it needed was a quick hone and it was good to go. BTW Jason seems to think it is close to 1100 now, but we did not dyno it this time, most the HP was from the fuel switch. I know it got me almost 3mph. Now to move onto the next challenge
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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10/23/10 02:27 AM
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Thanks, Chris. Al, Jason and Duke never agreed with the original cam profile, and thought that it would have made close to 1100, if the cam profile was more aggressive. I erred on the side of caution, and let Scott @ Straightline go with his gut. Scott did a great job with the profile, but, it certainly could have made more power. (Always gave me a fuzzy feeling, knowing that there was more in that combo) 200+ passes.....that makes me feel great.
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