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71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... #829513
10/14/10 11:15 AM
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Hey Guys
what size fly wheel and clutch/press.plate and bellhousing is reccomended for an auto to 4-speed swap on a 71 440 (internal balance) going into an e-body... Any starter issues to consider ??
Also is anyone still selling the pilot bushing for the auto crank to manual trans conversion... napa seems to have discontinued them...

We're more concerned with function on the street over originality...

Thanks
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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: smac77] #829514
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They came with a 513 bellhousing and a 10 1/2 clutch...That's what I would go with..


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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: anlauto] #829515
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I guess that would also need a 130t flywheel ?


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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: anlauto] #829516
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Year One used to have the undersized pilot bushings.

You probably want to use the 10 1/2 flywheel and clutch

Starter I'd use the smaller direct drive starter over the stock reduction gear

Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: anlauto] #829517
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Quote:

They came with a 513 bellhousing and a 10 1/2 clutch...That's what I would go with..




In '71 all big blocks (including the Hemi) used a 10.95" clutch. The pressure plate is scalloped to use the 10.5" bolt pattern.


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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: John_Kunkel] #829518
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what about the flywheel ?? Is there a difference in application between a 143 tooth and a 130 tooth... everything I read seems to conflict..

this is an internal balanced 440 engine...

I have a 513 bellhousing and now a 10 1/2 clutch... so which flywheel is best? Yes i know I'm working backwards here


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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: smac77] #829519
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The 143T flywheel won't work in the 513 bellhousing. You need the 130T wheel.


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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: 70440+6bbl] #829520
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The 143 tooth is an 11" unit.

The 130 is a 10.5".

The scalloped pp(10.95") uses a 130 tooth flywheel with a 10.5 pattern.

If you have a nuetral balance engine, you need a nuetral balance flywheel. Just put the bushing designed to go in the torque converter register of the crank.
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I wouldn't recommend the needle bearing here.

You are probably going to have to cut the first 3/4" or so off the pilot end of the input shaft of the trans. Bevel the edge. Measure first, there is a good chance there is already a M/T crank in there right now. Then you only need to put a atandard pilot bushing in there and you are done.


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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: HPMike] #829521
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I would use a reconditioned OEM flywheel from Brewers or Passon INSTEAD of a new not made in USA flywheel. I had a fitment problem with a flywheel from Mcleod. The ring gear was too close to the block and the teeth on the ring gear were not as deep as OEM causing a starter binding issue. Brewers has a nice reproduction of the alum belhousing to use with this swap. The starter is the same from auto to manual BTW.

Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: THESHAKERPROJECT] #829522
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I have a 1970 440+6 Cuda, that I had converted to the 11" cast iron bell housing and clutch setup in the early 80's. I have since restored it back to original and I used Brewers for parts. I bought a reconditioned original 10.5" 6 pack flywheel from them and it was perfect. I used the same starter and it works fine. The people at Brewers will help you with any questions.


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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: V0B Cuda] #829523
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Awesome, thanks guys... I'll give brewers a shout...


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Re: 71 440 flywheel/clutch starter combos.... [Re: THESHAKERPROJECT] #829524
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Quote:

I would use a reconditioned OEM flywheel from Brewers or Passon INSTEAD of a new not made in USA flywheel.




After asking zillion questions about aftermarket flywheels, this was the route I went.
I used the Brewer's 130T recon and I'm thrilled with it.







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