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1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! #826405
10/10/10 04:38 PM
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It's real, a "One of None" 67 Street Hemi VIN'd car, and only the second documented example of a 67 2 door Hemi 4 speed sedan known to exist, not only that, a beautiful rust free original body in a beautiful factory dark blue on blue combo. Personally folks, I wanted to puke after seeing the "after" pics. Could it have been worse? Sure, but cutting up that mint floor and 4 speed hump? What a WASTE! Anyone that thinks that would be "easy" to reverse hasn't ever done one to exacting standards.

Why cut up such a uniquely rare and valuable car when a reasonably priced /6 or 318 2 door sedans can be found for a race car project? I just don't get it.

Hemi 67 Belvedere I 4 speed Sedan



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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #826406
10/10/10 04:51 PM
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i like the fact that he doesnt care and cuts it up anyways.
guess it just makes the first one worth that much more money.

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #826407
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I agree, what a total idiot.

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #826408
10/10/10 05:15 PM
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I know it's his car and he can do as he pleases but I believe he made a serious mistake in cutting that car up.
43 miles.....


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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #826409
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Oh Yea -> IDIOT, He could have easily sold the Hemi car and used the proceeds to clone one and probably still put money in his pocket!! All from a $300.00 investment Such a Shame!!!

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ] #826410
10/10/10 05:47 PM
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I agree, what a total idiot.




I can't say what I'm really thinking without getting banned...

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: BBCoronet] #826411
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Oh Yea -> IDIOT, He could have easily sold the Hemi car and used the proceeds to clone one and probably still put money in his pocket!! All from a $300.00 investment Such a Shame!!!




I don't think he'd be so quick to Eff it up if he paid $100K for it. Since he only paid $300 then it's no big deal to him...

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: 64Post] #826412
10/10/10 06:16 PM
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That car WOULD have been a super easy resto and worth quite a bit of money done. What that guy did is like taking about $150k and setting it on fire and watching it burn.
I like what these guys are doing though, the more original cars get cut up the more the uncut ones will be worth.
I think replacing a Dana 60 with a Ford 9 inch pretty much captures the mentality at work in this case.

Sheldon

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: 64Post] #826413
10/10/10 06:18 PM
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Sweet , tube chassis is only an hour or so from me , i can go down and check out the carnage first hand .

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: JohnRR] #826414
10/10/10 06:22 PM
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Hey John, get a good pic of the entire fender tag, VIN tag, Dana tube info, and any pics of the parts that were cut away or removed if you don't mind? I hope they saved all of that for the next owner to replace.......Man what a shame to cut on that car

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #826415
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Hey John, get a good pic of the entire fender tag, VIN tag, Dana tube info, and any pics of the parts that were cut away or removed if you don't mind? I hope they saved all of that for the next owner to replace.......Man what a shame to cut on that car





The next owner will just swap the tags; that'll be easier than cutting and replacing all the metal.

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: 64Post] #826416
10/10/10 07:08 PM
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Well that would be a mistake, the Hemi torque boxes, support plates, rear spring plates, and pinion snubber plates won't be so easy to swap (convincingly), and if they use reproductions they will get noticed. If given the choice of the two tasks I'd choose fixing the hacked sheet metal.


Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: 64Post] #826417
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I don't really go for the "it's his car to do as he pleases" because people are stupid and ignorant and love to They destroy cars that have history and rarity. When you can profit from a car that someone else will do the right thing with it, why not? Take the money go to Arizona and find a nice 318 car and do as you please. Look at what Joel did with his current F.A.S.T car, replaced the rare one with a base model and race it and enjoy it.
To me it's common sense to do that and probably cheaper in the long run.

Besides who puts a 9 inch in when you have a Dana?


Besides I have a 318 Satellite that I'm making the way I would have ordered a Road Runner had I been alive then.

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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #826418
10/10/10 07:39 PM
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Well that would be a mistake, the Hemi torque boxes, support plates, rear spring plates, and pinion snubber plates won't be so easy to swap (convincingly), and if they use reproductions they will get noticed. If given the choice of the two tasks I'd choose fixing the hacked sheet metal.






Yeah you'll notice it...

The only plus is now the car is "outted".

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: 64Post] #826419
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What a mistake. Either restore it to original, or better yet to its original race configuration since its original motor's gone. There's even a good photo of it as a racecar for duplicating the lettering.
After surviving this long, I'd think a car that rare & valuable deserves more respect.

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: topside] #826420
10/10/10 08:12 PM
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What a mistake. Either restore it to original, or better yet to its original race configuration since its original motor's gone. There's even a good photo of it as a racecar for duplicating the lettering.
After surviving this long, I'd think a car that rare & valuable deserves more respect.





I agree, but in the case of a 66 or 67 the original engine being MIA is not such a big deal since the VIN sequence was not stamped on them in those years, it may take a bit of searching but an acceptably dated replacement engine could be found and would be acceptable to most as "correct". In fact if it weren't already public knowledge, a properly dated block etc. could not be proven to be a replacment.

Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #826421
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I consider that the equivalent of burning a historically significant flag.

I mean really if you want to prove your a stubborn jackhole and won't listen to reason there has to be less costly and irritating way to do it.


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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #826423
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No biggie look at the barrel cuda it can be put back if wanted or needed. I've seen the same thing happen to a rotisserie restored 6-pack Super Bee.


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Re: 1 of 2 Known 67 Hemi 4 Speed Belvedere Sedan - Hacked! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #826424
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It's hard for me to comprehend the owners actions.

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